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  • Is transflective worth the extra??

    Hi guys,

    I'm building my first carpc and I'm really struggling to select a screen. I'm based in the UK so it's harder to find options without importing. The local lilliput dealer only has limited options.

    However my biggest concern is readability. I really don't want to spend loads of money building up a system only to find that I can't read the screen all the time. Over here a transflective screen add's quite a lot of money to the price, so is it worth the extra? Are they really that much better? Are the non-transflectives really that bad in direct sunlight?

    At the end of the day the screen is my connection to the system, so I need to be happy with it.

    Thanks

  • #2
    Originally posted by AhSoul View Post
    Are the non-transflectives really that bad in direct sunlight?
    I have a non-transflective lilliput and there are times when I can not read it. However, it isnt usually longer than a few seconds between trees, buildings and the roads bending. I have no idea how much better a transflective screen is though.
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    • #3
      I have non-transflectives and at times during the summer especially but alos during the winter it can be difficult to see the scree.

      Last year I swapped for a a TMR (which is better than standard but not as good as a transflective) and it made a hell of a difference.

      I now also have a Convertible which will be getting a system, initially it will have one of my old standard Lilliputs in it, but I know I will need to upgrade to the transflective.

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      • #4
        i currently have a standard lilli 629, but just received a new transflective screen-- i think i might try to install it this weekend. assuming the day is brighter then it normally is around chicago this time of year, i'll try to take pictures..

        but really, the pics from mo-co-so sum it up very well:






        the reflectivity is partly as bad as the pictures show-- at certain angles, that is exactly how the screen will look, and at other angles, it is less bad, but still a little washed out in the sun
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        • #5
          I can get a high brightness 669 HDMI for $200 (157) shipped. Or I can get a transflective linITX for $555 (350). So it's more than double the price, and wouldn't even have HDMI (I'm a bit worried about interference on VGA).

          At that much extra it does make me wonder if it's worth it. I guess I could buy the 669 and try it. If I don't like it I'd probably be able to sell it in the UK for pretty much the same money.

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          • #6
            If you can't afford the transreflective, mo-co-so offers a screen protector that does help quite a bit. I don't have comparison pictures, but I noticed it helped me in my car.
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            • #7
              I've just found out I can get a Mini Touch 700 from mo-co-so for $140 and that's got the same high brightness panel as the better lilliputs etc. I'm wondering whether at that price it's worth a punt as if I do find I need to move to transflective later I've not lost a great deal....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AhSoul View Post
                ....So it's more than double the price, and wouldn't even have HDMI (I'm a bit worried about interference on VGA)....
                there really isn't that much interference on vga lines-- many of us use vga to connect to the pc, many times running 9-20'(3-5meters) of vga cabling with zero issues.

                as long as you use decently shielded vga cables, you should not have issues either.


                but i should say, i am not a fan of hdmi. it might be my home theater experience talking, but every time i try it, it turns into a horrendous nightmare, especially for something that everyone buys because of the 'simplicity' that it is supposed to offer(HD video, and digital audio in a single PNP cable)..



                but enough of that.. if you are having trouble justifying the extra cost for TR now, just get the high brightness screen, and maybe reconsider a TR screen later--this is exactly how i did it, and as a bonus, i now have a second screen to play with..


                EDIT: just got my TR screen installed heres a link t the thread:
                http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146061
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                • #9
                  Nice photos in your other thread mate. The more photos I look at the more I keep seeing really annoying reflections and glare in people's screens. I'm starting to think that the screen is probably the one thing you should spend more on, given that's what you're going to be looking at the whole time.....

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                  • #10
                    after my experience, i would say that it is more worthwhile to do right away, but like when i first started, it sometimes more then doubles the cost of the whole project, and sometimes it does seem like overkill. my first carpc rev. cost less then $300, and i just couldn't justify spending double that on just a 7" screen-- but look where that got me
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by soundman98 View Post
                      ... my first carpc rev. cost less then $300, and i just couldn't justify spending double that on just a 7" screen-- but look where that got me
                      Thats the thing, it's hard to justify $500+ on a 7" screen, when you can get a 24" screen for the same, or less, but in the end, it is worth it.

                      Drop the bucks on a good transflective screen, and you will appreciate it.
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                      • #12
                        What do you think of this one guys?

                        http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/1211

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                        • #13
                          doesn't say anything about being optically bonded (check above pics on difference)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AhSoul View Post
                            What do you think of this one guys?

                            http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/1211


                            Or, you can save the 150+ $$ and look at this:

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                            • #15
                              Hmm that would be fantastic but is it silver or black? It's a bit hard to tell from those photos. I also notice it says no international shipping, and I'm in the UK

                              Soundman - where does high brightness and non-bonded transflective fit in those set of images above?

                              Apparently mo-co-so are going to have an optically bonded transflective version of the Mini Touch 700 soon. I might hold on for that....

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