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  • Adding another monitor in back for kid.

    Newbie Question,

    I've got my lilliput 7" in the dash. Its great.. A little too small for my
    kid to see from the back seat though. I was thinking of putting in
    an overhead for the back seat. Im thinking maybe from 7" to 10", It
    doesnt need to be big. Any suggestions on screens? I also have no
    idea how this would be connected to my system. I'm thinking video
    out from my computer?

    Thanks for any help.
    Carputer in design stage...
    Currently working on Lilliput In Dash Install...
    MII 12000 + 512Mb Ram + Panasonic Slim DVD, CDRW + Lilliput 7" + Opus 150W + 3.5 120gb Drive... most parts on order!!

  • #2
    You'll need a PCI video card with dual VGA outputs. I assume you are just using the VGA out from your MII?

    If you have an Nvidia/ATI video card with dual outputs you can easily extend your windows desktop to a second monitor, its built into the drivers.
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    • #3
      Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...139-159&depa=1
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      • #4
        No he doesn't need that. Biglips31, you ca use an external vga hub, or ab Y divider, if you only need to add one. But, if you use the screen in the back only for the movies, you can connect it through the video output of the Epia.
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        • #5
          Hey Guys,

          I dont have an extra PCI slot, its filled with a Wintv Card.

          Cris, yes the display is primarily for use with movies however when in the down position I would like to have it display whatever is on the front display. Just in case I have a load of people in the car wanting to see pictures, gps or radio station feedback.

          If I use an external vga hub or splitter to one monitor what can I use. I searched ebay for flip down monitors and there alot but none with a vga input. Any ideas??

          Thanks

          Hey, I just found this by doing a http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...products_id=48

          Only problem is thats way too expensive for me.. Cris, what do you mean by primary use for dvd?? Will it still display entire desktop on video out? I have never used this before.

          Thanks
          Carputer in design stage...
          Currently working on Lilliput In Dash Install...
          MII 12000 + 512Mb Ram + Panasonic Slim DVD, CDRW + Lilliput 7" + Opus 150W + 3.5 120gb Drive... most parts on order!!

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          • #6
            I just added a second touchscreen to the headrest for my daughter. I used a VGA splitter ($15), there's no reduction in quality and she can operate the pc without buggin' me. Works great although both screens show the same thing.

            I may throw a mobile dvd player under the passenger seat so she can watch dvd independent of the computer.
            Budman
            Xenarc PC, dual 7" touchscreens, 512mb, 20g, dvd, Earthmate GPS, Keyspan remote control, voice control for media, 8-in-1 card reader, Bluetooth Razr, 54mbps 802.11g wireless.
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            • #7
              video out

              Originally posted by pip
              You'll need a PCI video card with dual VGA outputs. I assume you are just using the VGA out from your MII?

              If you have an Nvidia/ATI video card with dual outputs you can easily extend your windows desktop to a second monitor, its built into the drivers.

              I don't think he needs another video card, the MII should be able to output both composite video and the VGA at the same time right.? Als if he/she gets the Digital out adapter a digital monitor can be used for the overhead display.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cris
                No he doesn't need that. Biglips31, you ca use an external vga hub, or ab Y divider, if you only need to add one. But, if you use the screen in the back only for the movies, you can connect it through the video output of the Epia.
                Can you use both the VGA and TV out simultaneously? I remember trying that and having probs with the epia M board.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by biglips31
                  Hey, I just found this by doing a http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...products_id=48

                  Only problem is thats way too expensive for me.. Cris, what do you mean by primary use for dvd?? Will it still display entire desktop on video out? I have never used this before.
                  I said primarily, becouse, the display of the desktop is not very clear. Yes it will display what is on the front screen, but the image isn't clear at all, but when you see movies, the image is O.K.
                  Unfortunatlly that's the only VGA flip down monitor I know of. Be carrefull, that isn't touch screen. The cheapest way would be if you mount a normal screen in the headrest. For 400$ you could even mount 2 touch screens in the headrests. Personally, I think it's more elegant this way...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lattice
                    Can you use both the VGA and TV out simultaneously? I remember trying that and having probs with the epia M board.
                    I don't think you should have any issues. I've never tried on an M board, but I've seen plnty of installs that used the video out on an M board succesfully. There could be image problems, but they can easilly be solved if you play with the soft a little.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lattice
                      Can you use both the VGA and TV out simultaneously? I remember trying that and having probs with the epia M board.
                      The Epia M will be able to do both, but only at 60HZ refresh rate. My Lilliput has overscan problems at 60HZ (it runs fine at 75HZ) so this is what I purchased, a KWorld PC to TV converter:
                      http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...100-117&depa=0
                      It's $43 and outputs on both Composite and S-Video. I purchased two composite video headrest screens from DigitalWW for $120. Get an S-Video to composite adaptor, and now you can output the front screen output to both of the rears. The quality in the rear two LCDs aren't as good as the molded Lilliput in the front, but I only use it for the kids in the back.
                      This is the solution I came up with because my M10000 is in a Morex 3688 case, and there's no room to add a PCI card.
                      Installation Complete, pics soon

                      EPIA M10000 in Morex 3688 case
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                      • #12
                        A bit pricey though...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cris
                          A bit pricey though...
                          What, the $43 scan converter? It's not any more expensive than a PCI vga card.
                          Installation Complete, pics soon

                          EPIA M10000 in Morex 3688 case
                          FrodoPlayer
                          CoPilot Live 8

                          Back from long hiatus, will be rebuilding soon

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ncamara
                            What, the $43 scan converter? It's not any more expensive than a PCI vga card.
                            More expansive than an Y divider anyway...
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                            • #15
                              You still need a y divider to be able to use the liliput and the converter. But using the y divider and the converter is still probably cheaper than having to buy a vga monitor since you can find composite monitors for much cheaper.
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