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  • lilliput 619 is reflective, 629 has antiglare?

    I met john94587 today in person. He wanted to see if his lilliput 629 was blurry because it is or because it's busted. He has a 629 I have a 619. His 629 appears to have some sort of anti-glar thing. I'm not sure if it's the touch film itself or something on top of it, but where my 619 is a mirror, his is diffuse. The overall effect is that my 619 is sharper and brighter. But, it's a mirror. I can clearly make out details of reflection in it. On his 629, wide viewing angles work much better, it's darker and a bit softer, but does a pretty good job of not being so reflective. When showing bright white, you can clearly see a sort of fuzzy rainbow haze on his 629.

    Is this another 619 vs. 629 difference? I haven't seen it mentioned. I'd really like to live with both the glare and anti-glare for a week and see which one I like. Anyone know what's up?
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    I'm certainly not the expert, but it almost sounds like a difference in the touchkit. The 629 appears to be using a new touchpanel that isn't so mirror-like
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    • #3
      Originally posted by DarquePervert
      I'm certainly not the expert, but it almost sounds like a difference in the touchkit. The 629 appears to be using a new touchpanel that isn't so mirror-like
      That's the impression I was left with. I just had not seen it talked about yet, and was wondering whether it was a difference between the two or maybe "old" vs. "new" units. I always though the 619 had a flat face and the 629 had curved. This 629 wasn't curved at all. Just anti-glare. john94587 bought it off eBay, I wonder if it's a fake?
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      • #4
        hmmm, counterfiet lilliputs? strange concept.....since their rep isnt the best

        the unbadged screens on this site appear to be lilliputs....but i dont recognize the 8"....maybe a super brand?

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        • #5
          I've got the 629, and while I havn't spent much time looking at 619's, I would not come close to claiming the surface of mine was "mirror-like". It definitely has that hazy anti-glare appearance to it. I bought mine from the mp3car.com/store in July of this year (some counter-counterfeit evidence).

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          • #6
            Surprising I search on this site and there's no discussion of this either. Kbyrd was mentioning of my screen. I tested everything and it seems it's a Lilliput. I'm going to take some pictures of my screen and kbyrd can take pictures of his screen and we can compare.
            Hey kbyrd maybe we can trade for a week or two just to test when my screen is fit in the bezel. LoL.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by john94587
              Surprising I search on this site and there's no discussion of this either. Kbyrd was mentioning of my screen. I tested everything and it seems it's a Lilliput. I'm going to take some pictures of my screen and kbyrd can take pictures of his screen and we can compare.
              Hey kbyrd maybe we can trade for a week or two just to test when my screen is fit in the bezel. LoL.
              You said "lol", but I would totally go for that. Of course, we have to wait for me to get another power supply.
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              • #8
                I have the same issue with my 629. I have more problems viewing mine during the day than my friend with the 619. Are the screens interchangable?

                I also have an odd problem that my screen will not dim in centrafuse on my car pc or home pc. My friends 619 does.
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                • #9
                  Looks like lilliput's site has different specs for them:

                  619:
                  Brightness: 400cd/m2

                  629:
                  Brightness: 350cd/m2

                  Consistent with your observations. Found this at gdsun.com
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                  • #10
                    I haven't updated this in a while. But here's the deal. According to Armen at digitalww.com, you can get 619's with the anti-glare screen as well. It's just the touchpanel. I bought a matte replacement from him and put it on my 619, works great.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kbyrd
                      I haven't updated this in a while. But here's the deal. According to Armen at digitalww.com, you can get 619's with the anti-glare screen as well. It's just the touchpanel. I bought a matte replacement from him and put it on my 619, works great.
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                      • #12
                        does the anti-glare touch panel have tiny dots in a grid pattern, if u look at it closely?

                        I have the latest 619 revision which is black, and the touchpanel, power "egg" and even the VGA connector cable are different.
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                        • #13
                          Yes it does, it almost looks like there is a layer over the touch panel that you can peel off. I ordered a 619 from digitallww over a year ago that had the anti-glare panel but my latest 619 from mp3car has the mirror like touch panel, its really annoying to look at in direct sunlight.

                          Originally posted by nadir_s
                          does the anti-glare touch panel have tiny dots in a grid pattern, if u look at it closely?

                          I have the latest 619 revision which is black, and the touchpanel, power "egg" and even the VGA connector cable are different.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kalt
                            Yes it does, it almost looks like there is a layer over the touch panel that you can peel off. I ordered a 619 from digitallww over a year ago that had the anti-glare panel but my latest 619 from mp3car has the mirror like touch panel, its really annoying to look at in direct sunlight.

                            o ok, yeah the black 619 has the antiglare.

                            However, the display is not as sharp as the old one ... it seems to be a BIT hazy ... hard to explain, but u can tell there's something over the display.

                            at least teh screen functions alot better than my older revision ones (i've had 3 older revisions before this).
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nadir_s
                              o ok, yeah the black 619 has the antiglare.

                              However, the display is not as sharp as the old one ... it seems to be a BIT hazy ... hard to explain, but u can tell there's something over the display.

                              at least teh screen functions alot better than my older revision ones (i've had 3 older revisions before this).
                              Yea, it's a bit hazy, someone described it as 'rainbox speckles'. I didn't notice it, it had to be pointed out to me. If you're in the bay area, you can come see it. I tried to take pictures (in my worklog) but they don't show the difference very well.
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