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    Hi everyone. Pretty new to this stuff, and excited to learn. I have a 67 Fastback with a 4.6 DOHC... I am putting a vortech on it in the next few months, so I started looking into tuning programs, requirements, etc... anyway, somehow I stubled onto this site. I don't really know much of anything about computers (which is kind of ironic) but since I don't have a laptop, putting a touchscreen (which are way cheaper than I would ahve assumed) in the car and running my tuning programs, wbc, etc would really make things simpler. Plus, since the car doesnt have a stereo in it, I was looking at spending a bunch of money too... anyway, hopefully a carpc would save me some money over all the stuff that I have to buy.

    Anyway, looks like there is alot of good info here, that I hope to be able to put to use! Most likely I will be buying a completed system that can handle music, nav, my tuning programs, etc. It will be alot easier for me that way, I think.

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    rossmacd - Welcome to the site!

    A 67 Fastback, awesome car! My first was a 67 coupe, and am stilla Mustang guy at heart.

    Wondering about your engine. Since a 4.6 didn't come out until 1991, did you do the swap yourself? What was in it originally? From what I remember about Ford engines, the engine should have bolted up to the existing tranny, did you swap that too?

    Good luck with your CarPc project, excellent when you marry todays technology with an old muscle car! Would love to see some before/after pics, and pics of the car of course!
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    • #3
      The very first car i ever owned (and still have) was 66 coupe. I could never get rid of it... has the original 289 in it and runs like a champ. The body needs a lot of work though. It resides at my fathers house going through restoration at the moment (my dad loves to fix up old cars). Anyway, when i am finished with my jeep project, ill be putting a CarPC in the mustang. I am really looking forward to it

      When i drove it in high school, I didn't know how (nor want to) cut up the dash to put in an after market DIN radio, so i built a box to house one and wedged it between the dash and transmission hump. I haven't looked inside stang in a few years, but if i remember correctly, there should be enough room there to mount at least a 7" monitor. I'll know more when i start that project (hopefully within the next few months). I'm sure you will be well on your way with your project, and i look forward to boosting some ideas from you Make sure to post your progress..

      Good Luck...

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      • #4
        Thanks for the welcome. I have had my car for about...I guess almost 7 years now. When I got it it was sitting in a backyard covered in a tarp, as it had been for 5 or more years before then, when someone smacked a tree with it. I replaced the sheetmetal from the shocktowers forward and have been driving it ever since... except when it's on jackstands.

        As for the engine, it was originally out of an 03 mach 1 5-speed car, but I rebuilt it with forged pistons and rods, and put a tko600 behind it. It's a great car to drive, and yes I did all the work myself. I have a bunch of pics on a build thread that i did over on modularfords.com. It took e a year to get everything done, but it's like everything else, you spend more time figuring things out than actually doing them.

        pics and build thread at http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=44436

        In case you are wondering, yeah, it's still the same primer grey and primer black. Atomic orange is the color I am planning for right now, but since alot of the reason it hasn't gotten painted yet is my constant indecisivness about the color, I don't know how that will go!

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        • #5
          By the way... I am basically completely new to car audio in all of it's forms, since my car has been without a radio since i bought it 6 years ago. Where can I read about doing all the necesary wiring? I don't even really know how to choose an amp, sound card, etc.

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          • #6
            For instance; if I were to buy this "stage 3 carpc,
            http://store.mp3car.com/ShoppingCart...Code=CCC%2D121
            and this touchscreen,
            http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_8_W..._p/mon-029.htm
            I ams ure that i Could figure it out, but can someone point me to a thread that explains what I need to do to hook all that up to a car stereo (that I will be doing at the same time)? I know I should search, and I ahve, but I think that I know so little that I don't understand what thread is helpfull and what thread is, less helpfull.

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            • #7
              Here's a link.
              Attached Files
              Originally posted by ghettocruzer
              I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
              Want to:
              -Find out about the new iBug iPad install?
              -Find out about carPC's in just 5 minutes? View the Car PC 101 video

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              • #8
                I read that link, and it talked about two different ways to wire the speakers, depending (I think, again I know basically nothing) on the outputs from the sound card... the system that I linked doesn't say which type of outputs the card has, so how can I figure that out?

                Sorry, I know that i am being a total newb. I did read the entire "getting started" thread, but my basis of knowledge is so far behind... I can wire a car upside down and backwards but I need to know what I am looking at!

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    Do you plan on having a normal deck in you car and a PC or just the PC. If just a PC then you will need an amp to power your speakers. A common setup would be 2 front speakers and 2 rear speakers and depending on how into audio you want to get maybe a sub or 2.

                    From looking at the link to the PC setup you posted that motherboard has 3 audio connectors: Line in, Line out, and Mic.

                    To get the sound from your computer to the amp you would use a rca plug like this.
                    You plug that cable into the Line out audio connector on the PC and the other end into your amp.
                    Here is a diagram that I put together to give you an idea of what is involved in wiring up everything.


                    One wire that is missing is the REMOTE wire for the amps. Its just a single wire that tells your amps to turn on. I didn't put that wire in because there is a few ways to wire that up depending on a number of things. At this point I probably just confuse you ( if I haven't done so already )

                    Anyways welcome to the forums and good luck with your project.
                    My RAMPUTER

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rossmacd View Post
                      I read that link, and it talked about two different ways to wire the speakers, depending (I think, again I know basically nothing) on the outputs from the sound card... the system that I linked doesn't say which type of outputs the card has, so how can I figure that out?

                      Sorry, I know that i am being a total newb. I did read the entire "getting started" thread, but my basis of knowledge is so far behind... I can wire a car upside down and backwards but I need to know what I am looking at!
                      The Jetway has audio out jack on the back unless you decide to add a soundcard.
                      Originally posted by ghettocruzer
                      I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
                      Want to:
                      -Find out about the new iBug iPad install?
                      -Find out about carPC's in just 5 minutes? View the Car PC 101 video

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                      • #12
                        Thanks jumbodogs, that helps alot! You too bugbyte.

                        I am planning on having no head unit and running everything through the pc. I have plenty of space for a small amp, but not enough dash space for an 8 inch screen and a headunit. I'll be building a new console when I do this, and rewiring the whole car (again) I figure it will take me about a week to get everything 'done', but I am big in to planning and will run it through my head a thousand times before I even get started.

                        Currently my plans are to have 5 speakers; two tweeters up under the dash (in the stock location) 2 6 1/2 inchers in the kicks, and one 8 inch sub in the trunk. I am not 'big' into music, but if i am going to spend the money, then I want to at least have a decent sounding system. But budget is important, so I am not going over board.

                        Since I won't be using an external head unit, I assume that I need to get an amp that has 5 channels and the ability to power ALL of my speakers, right?

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                        • #13
                          Nice Car

                          Hey man whats going on. Just looked at your build forum. We have pretty similar stories I've had my 68 coupe since I was 16 (now 23 ah how time flies) after 1 289 and 2 302's I'm going dohc myself. I'm cheap though so I stripped down a 96 Mark VIII. I built a full custom frame for it out of 2x3 1/8" (fit inside the rocker panels ) tubing and used the Mark's suspension (Air ride ) I haven't gotten a chance to work on it for a few months because I'm away at college but I hope to have it at least running this summer. The pic looks pretty rough but it'll get there one of these days. I got the mark for $600 and my family owns a small steel supply and fab shop so hopefully I'll have less than $2k in the conversion. Anyway awesome car.

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                          • #14
                            Yeah you can go with a 5 channel amp to save room but I think they are kinda expensive. You might want to do a search in the audio forum for info on them or maybe post in there about that. I had 2 channel amp from an old setup that I used for my sub then I purchased a 4 channel for my fronts and rears.
                            My RAMPUTER

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                            • #15
                              I suppose that two smaller amps would make sense... I'll look in to it more.

                              Anyone know what it would take to be able to control my power windows with the pc? Is that feasable? How about my a/c?

                              Stangtjk; I wish I could say I had that little into my conversion; I spent about that much on my fuel system, not to mention rebuilding the engine, etc... but it was well worth it! Good luck on your project, looks neat to me.

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