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  • After much reading, I'm ready to ask a few questions..

    Well, I used the search, and have been reading for days nows, but all I have accomplished is giving myself a headache, so I'm just going to ask a few questions and try to drum up some support.

    I have a 2001 Mazda Protege MP3. It has a double DIN opening. I'm looking to build a custom CarPC with a monitor that will look stock in that opening, with as little bondo'ing as possible. I would like to keep things simple.

    That being said, how is the 7" TVIEW T-700TS touchscreen as far as a fit in a double DIN? I realize I will have to do some fabing, but don't want to ruin my dash. Is there a better option?

    I'm pretty good with computers, so I can probably take care of that end of it on my own, except the power aspect kind of confuse me. I don't really know what I need as far as powering the computer and screen.

    To sum it up, I'm asking for what I should be looking to buy. Monitor, PS, ect. to end up with a decent "stock" looking monitor in my dash that will play MP3's, have usable navigation, (and look cool of course).

    Thanks in advance,

    Chris

  • #2
    get a replacement

    I understand your unwillingness to do anything drastic to your dash. But my suggestion to you, as I'm sure many others would suggest, is just to hit your local junkyard and get a replacement piece for that center part of your dash. I assume that your MP3 has a similar interior to most of the later Mazda Proteges. And, since most people I know with "sport compacts" drive like ****tards, you have a pretty good chance of finding a smashed up Protoge in a junkyard. So, save yourself some headache and buy a replacement to play around with.
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    • #3
      I see you're a member on the protege forums too... search a bit on there, there's some nice setups that people have going with some pretty clean installs.

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      • #4
        Actually, the Mazda forums is what re-sparked my interest in a CarPC. LinuxRacer is in the midst of hooking up some new stuff, and has been posting about it. Anyhow, I've been tossing around ideas with a friend, and the extra dash piece idea makes sense. I would still like to know which monitor is the best fit for a double DIN hole. As of now I'm leaning towards the TVIEW T-700TS, because of the price, and the good reviews it seems to recieve on here. Would this be a good choice?

        Thanks...

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        • #5
          I agree ... get a spare piece from the junkyard. Tis what I did. That way you don't have to worry about effing it up.

          I'm not familiar with the TVIEW screen. Any 7" VGA touchscreen should be fine, I use the Lilluput myself. It's been great.

          Power will be your biggest challenge. What equipment you run will dictate how beefy the power supply should be, but I'll tell you don't go cheap on it. I'm currently using a PW-70a power supply with the ITPS for the shutdown controller. The PW-70a is pretty good but the ITPS isn't (it's only $40, what do you expect?). I play on replacing the ITPS with a carnetix supply soon.

          OPUS is also good.
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          • #6
            Thanks for all the input. I have bought and paid for the monitor eBay Link , and also bought another center console piece to experiment with mounting the monitor from a guy on the Protege forums. (My main fear was ruining my dash.) Now I am trying to gather a parts list for the computer itself. As shakes said, power is going to be a concern. Am I correct in saying that an OPUS 150 is plenty of power for a moderate computer? Will the OPUS handle all my power needs, as far as shutdown, ect.?

            Also, my main goals are MP3, GPS, Divx. Nothing too fancy. What type of CPU/MOBO should I be looking at? I am mainly looking for a stable system, with not too many issues popping up all the time. Does the VIA Epia boards sound like a good choice, or are the underpowered? BTW, I am planning on using my existing amplifiers, no HU. I have a 4 channel and a mono (one channel) amps.

            I'm just trying to drum up ideas/opinions. I really appreciate the comments and help!

            Thanks again,

            Chris

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            • #7
              Standing ovation for a question asked after searching...

              (insert applause)
              The 7" touchscreen will just fit North and South in the opening.
              there will be a slight gap on either side when using a Double-Din opening(I think).

              You may be able to mount the LCD just behind and not mod anything if you use some spacers to fill the gap. I don't have a Mazda, but Double-din is pretty much the same across cars... at least they are supposed to be.

              I cut out a piece of paper that was the dimensions of the LCD without the case and held it up to my opening. You might try that. Cardstock is better than printer paper by the way...
              Good Luck.
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              • #8
                Thanks for the vote of confidence kmcniece! You make it sound less dramatic than I had been anticipating. Here's the center piece I bought I'm sure it will all make more sense once I get to physically play with all this stuff. Any suggestions on other hardware?

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                • #9
                  Based on what I see, You should be able to mount the TS behind the dash trim with no problem. You will have to remove it from its case, but that's another issue. Just read up on taking apart your TS...

                  If it fits in there witht gaps, just get some lexan or black plastic and mount it on either side of the screen. It will look close to factory.

                  The 7" will fit, the 8" is a little big, north and south. Also the 8" is 4:3 vs. 16:9(widescreen)on the 7", so the 7" is a better choice, in my opinion.

                  Good luck.
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                  • #10
                    As for other hardware,
                    I use the M10000 Motherboard becasue I wanted to mount it behind the screen where the original radio was.

                    Apparently it will fit in the original housing.
                    I also searched for power supplies before choosing one. Somewhere(Iforget where) there is asite that will aloow you to input the MB, HD, DVD, USB and it will tell you if you have enough power, if you are using a DC-DC power. I personaly don't like the inverter idea, but that is just me.

                    My XM works great, I use the XM direct (50.00) and I used the Hybrid Mike XM adapter cable, but there is a guide to building your own for much less and looks to be pretty easy.

                    I was using an Ikea case to house the computer, but I have since torn apart my daughter's Barbie PC to use it's housing.... It takes a mini-itx and hold everything. This is of course until I can get it all mounted into a standard double-din to mount in the dash.... Heat may be an issue wit mounting it in the dash.....

                    Hope this helps....
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                    • #11
                      you need to decide if you want to go for a stealth and clean install ... or quick dirty and cheap.

                      if you want a stealth install go for the M10000 or another mini-itx and all laptop components (this is easier on power too).

                      If you want quick and dirty just throw a desktop computer in the trunk with an opus (not to say that there aren't good looking installs with desktops cause there are plenty).

                      I also use the M10000 because I wanted a stock look.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the replies. I definately want a stealth/stock appearance. Also, I want to keep the power low, due to my 40 amp alternator. I had to shop around for low draw amplifiers when choosing them. Anyhow, keep the ideas coming. The M10000 mobo looks like what I will go with. Is all the integrated audio/video pretty good, or will it all have to be upgraded. Again, I'm not looking for a powerhouse, just something that I will be able to use for multimedia in my car.

                        Thanks again,

                        Chris

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                        • #13
                          You won't be able to upgrade that via motherboard at all. With the EPIA you get what it comes with performance wise.

                          That is a really good price for that monitor, good job!

                          I used a lilliput, cut the front surround and managed to mount it with a completely stock look. If you go this route, don't forget the flat black paint

                          Sometimes you can find laptop computers on ebay with broken screens for cheap. makes an awesome platform for a stealth install. RAM and larger hard drives can be expensive though.


                          I've got some pic on my website if you'd like http://www.cartech.cc

                          muchmore to come soon.

                          Good Luck,
                          Dave
                          go to http://www.cartech.cc for more info about me and my rides.

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                          • #14
                            The Epia M10000 is suitable for mp3, video, DVD and nav. It's no champ in the speed department but it should do what you're asking it to do.

                            I chose the M10000 because of the size and power consumption. Plus the integrated design seemed like it would be durable. Lots of folks use them and most have quite good results.

                            For your first CarPC :-O it should be good enough to get you going.
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                            • #15
                              Bugbyte ... your install is sick.

                              All I can say is I'm glad I won't have to try to show off my install at a meet where your car will be present. Your install makes mine look like elementary school work.

                              Good job ..... you bastard.

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