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    Ok, I've been lurking on this forum for weeks now. And I've learned a ton. I've put together a system on paper I think will work well for my needs. Need some advice though before I drop ~$2000. Questions/concerns are in bold.

    Goals - Smooth operation of the following
    1. Mp3 playback
    2. Dvd
    3. Wireless Internet
    4. Bluetooth
    5. GPS
    6. reverse and front mounted camera's
    7. OBDII interface

    Here's how I plan to acheive these abilities.

    1. the carputer - bought here from mp3car store
    MP3Car Custom Car Computer (3688)
    - Build Build & Test
    - Motherboard VIA EPIA MII12000 Mini-ITX Mainboard Q1 - does this include 2 or 4 USB ports?
    - Hard Drive 2.5" Hard Drive 80GB Samsung 5400rpm
    - CD/DVD Drive Teac 24x Notebook CD-ROM (refurb)
    - Memory Ultra Low Profile 256MB DDR RAM
    - Bluetooth Linksys USB Bluetooth
    - Operating System None (I have xp here at home)
    - Keyboard None
    - Monitor Xenarc 700TSV (Black) Q2 - can I just hook this up off my Headunit's power, or does this require a regulated power supply?
    - Sound Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS (/w MII12000 only)
    - Wireless Linksys USB Wireless G

    2. upgrades
    - P1900 140 watt power supply + P5v module to power computer, usb hub and external dvd drive. Q3 - how does this connect to the computer? soldering involved? will it be compatable?
    - 1 gig Ram Q4 - Is this overkill? would 512 be enough?
    - external dvd/cd drive
    *Q5 - if anyone has a suggestion of what dvd drive to get, please post, I'd prefer it's dimensions to be 6"x6"x2" to fit under the headunit
    - USB hub- number of ports to be determined when I know how many usb ports come with the computer.

    3. GPS
    - BU - 303 USB GPS receiver
    - IGuidance seems to be the best program for me as it has voice recognition

    4. as far as the OBDII and camera options. I just need to know that my base system will be upgradeable in the future to add these.

    5. I still need to do a little more research as to what front end I want to use.

    6. Various Cables
    - Mic to RCA connection to headunit
    - Lots of USB extension cables.

    Q6 - If the computer only comes with 2 USB ports, Should I scrap it and go with something else. I don't think up to 8 devices connected via USB to 2 ports will be very smooth.


    how's it look? any suggestions to improve the system? Anything I'm overlooking or not doing right?

    Thanks in advance

  • #2
    Well even if you print it out real big, and use some paper mache to make it look ok,
    I'm not real sure it's going to work. I suggest using real components and not just paper.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by frodobaggins
      Well even if you print it out real big, and use some paper mache to make it look ok,
      I'm not real sure it's going to work. I suggest using real components and not just paper.
      Hmm, I think if you use card stock or some firmer type of paper you might have more luck. Although cardboard may possibly be the best option for you.
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      • #4
        1. I don't know. Check their web-site. You can get an expander if needed.
        2. You can, but the 13.8v is not recommended for LCD life.
        3. Carnex uses an ATX connector, I believe. Solder into your power line.
        4. For an EPIA, yes 512MB would be enough.
        5. Whatever is cheapest
        6. If they're USB 2.0 ports, I don't think you would have a problem. Where are you getting 8 devices from? I don't see that.
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        • #5
          Ok, back on topic guys
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          My next generation Front End is right on schedule.
          It will be done sometime in the next generation.
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          I am for hire!

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          • #6
            Badfish25, the MKII12000 comes with only 2 USB ports, but it does have the optionof adding 2 more on the motherboard. I have one and have 2 usb in the rear and 2 in front.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WiCKeD 5.9L
              1. I don't know. Check their web-site. You can get an expander if needed.
              2. You can, but the 13.8v is not recommended for LCD life.
              3. Carnex uses an ATX connector, I believe. Solder into your power line.
              4. For an EPIA, yes 512MB would be enough.
              5. Whatever is cheapest
              6. If they're USB 2.0 ports, I don't think you would have a problem. Where are you getting 8 devices from? I don't see that.
              1. Being a newb I don't know alot of the techno jargon I found about it here. http://www.logicsupply.com/product_i...roducts_id/209
              Backpanel I/O has 2 usb's
              Onboard I/O Connectors "1 USB connector for 2 additional USB 2.0 ports" No clue what that means
              2. So I guess I'll try to find the cheapest regulator i can for the screen
              6. well, I was figuring Xenarc, wifi, gps, bluetooth, 2 cams, obdII, and external dvdrom

              Kruben, what do I need to add the 2 additional USB's?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by xBrady
                Hmm, I think if you use card stock or some firmer type of paper you might have more luck. Although cardboard may possibly be the best option for you.
                lol...give the guy a break...!

                If you don't have a space limitation for the PC I recommend using something other than a 3688. That is what I have but if I had the room I would go with a bigger box so I could add PCI cards and/or not have to use a via board.

                I would also go with Opus 150. I know I don't have it but believe me, there is no better feeling than knowing you are not underpowered.

                1 gig ram is overkill in a carputer. 512 is enough.

                iguidance does not have voice recognition, unless you add navivoice or simillar software to your setup.

                Good luck...

                Edit: If you stay with 3688, it comes with two front USB ports and hardware to connect to the motherboard. So you will have 4 ports all together.
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                • #9
                  Sweet on the 4 ports
                  How many outputs and at what voltages can be hooked up to the opus?
                  As far as screen power, Am I to assume this can work? http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...roducts_id=138 12V, the xenarc won't need more than 15w

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                  • #10
                    http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_...products_id=32
                    Compaq Evo D510 e-PC - P4 2.0 - 512M RAM - 120G 3.5 HD - 7" Xenarc 700TSV - DSATX fitted nicely inside the PC case

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                    • #11
                      Heres a paper iPod to go with your paper computer:

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                      • #12
                        and here is the sub box to go with it


                        ha ha ha

                        now that we have our 12 year old tendencies out of the way can we please post useful information. It might just make the function more useful

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                        • #13
                          Here, I hosted it:

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                          • #14
                            I how "Ghetto Box" is written on the side of the paper enclosure... adds a nice touch.
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                            • #15
                              Hey....so what kind of car are you putting this in? How are you going to mount the DVD/CD ROM...are you planning on putting it in a single din slot? Is that where you get the 6*6*2 idea?

                              And you're going to keep your headunit? Or are you calling the carputer the HeadUnit? Depending on your cars system, you may be able to use an amp to hook up the carputer directly to the speakers...Just something to think about.

                              Anyway, to address the USB issue. Most motherboards have 2 USB ports automatically wired to their I/O panel (input/output) on the back where you plug in everything else. Many newer motherboards also have a connector so that you can run a line from the MoBo to the front of the computer to get USB functionality at the front of the computer. The 3688 has the front panel USB connectors so assumably it has the wiring inside the case to connect to the MoBo and will probably arrive already attached if you're buying it built. For other computer setups, you can often buy the parts to connect them and run them to a 5.25" bay or whatever.

                              The 3688 doesn't allow room for an additional PCI, so judging by you're planned peripherals you'll need at least 8 USB ports (Bluetooth, WiFi, SoundCard, GPS, TouchScreen, Exernal DVD, 2 Cameras?) so I'd plan on that powered hub.

                              The M1-ATX power supply already has a regulator on it, so you don't need to buy a separate one. You'll have to do some soldering/wiring and you can tap into the 12v lead to power your monitor. Several people have discussed this so you can do a little search to get more details. One of the pros for the Xenarc screen is an autoon feature, so the "Smart" power supply will turn on the carputer when the ignition hits and it'll then turn on the Xenarc. Similarly, the powered hub can be powered off the 5v rail from the power supply.

                              I'd agree with everyone else...the 90 watt might not cut it. The Opus 120 or 150 are better options! Good luck!

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