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    As far as an operating system for the car pc goes, I've noticed a lot of people funning XP pro, and optimize it for fast startup and shutdown. How do you optimize it? Also what is the software that acts as a home screen? I noticed that a lot of car pcs has the logo of their car manufacturer surrounded with the feature such as mp3 dvd navigation and anything else. If i use software like readyon do i need a shutdown controller or can i just wire the power supply with a relay to my ignition. Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    I am in no way an expert but have been trolling the forums for a couple of months, and have read all of the FAQ's so I think I can answer some of these questions before you get flooded with posts that just tell you to search and read the FAQ's

    XP is the dominant os due to its stability and software options available and that almost everybody has a copy of it, I wouldnt even dream of running 98 or ME. You could use linux as its super stable but then you are going to be limited on the software you can use. Your standard XP install is going to be a bit bloated with a bunch of stuff you don't need, so I would go and turn off all the extra crap you dont need that way you can get a computer with so-so specs to still run ok. Check out this site
    http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm
    to see a list of services and what they do and if you can turn them off or not. I happen to use a version of XP pro called the "stripped to the bone edition" it is a ultra lightweight version that has just about everything you don't need turned off and all the extra crap that I would never use removed and its really really fast. I think the total amount of space that it uses in somthing like 400 megs total, freeing up the rest of my hard drive for other stuff like programs and mp3's. Also you are going to want to go to msconfig and turn off all the extra stuff that you wont need, I also dont think you will need any antivirus software running in the background.

    here is a link to the forum topic that has a list of all the different carpc frontends that you can use.

    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34218

    basicly I would install a bunch of them and check them out and see which one works for you.

    and as for the power supply question, NO you can't just wire your power supply. for that you need to check the the power supply faq here.

    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51060

    you really do need to read all the FAQ's and search the forums, the answers are there you just need to find them.

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    • #3
      The apocolypse is coming! Newb's helping each other.
      Is this where the witty comment goes?
      97 Black pearl Mazda Miata MX-5 Carpc V2? maybee..

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jnye6625
        I noticed that a lot of car pcs has the logo of their car manufacturer surrounded with the feature such as mp3 dvd navigation and anything else.
        This is the front end software such as Roadrunner, check the software forum for more info. There is not a lack of choices when it comes to this.
        James Radcliffe
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        Planning (Phase I)
        |||||++++++| 40% Making Final Pre-Purchase Plans
        Car Stereo (Phase II)
        |||||||||++| 80% - Building box, getting ready to wire
        Carputer (Phase III)
        ||+++++++++| 10% Desiging CarPC case

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        • #5
          Yes noobs helping noobs....

          Various frontends that can be modified to have your own logos placed on them. Usually requires some PhotoShop skills.
          http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51485

          You can boot straight into them to get the program running quicker also:
          http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51635

          Dumbing down the OS to run what you want it to, check out nLite:
          http://www.nliteos.com/

          As far as your question about the shutdown controller. Looks like if you were running ReadyOn, you might be able to bypass it. The shutdown controller ensures that the computer doesn't stay on when you turn your car off (thus saving your battery), but also initiates a safe hibernate/shutdown of the computer to keep things safe. Is ReadyOn something you really want to use though? Check out:
          http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...5&postcount=81

          Check the link to the faq emporium in the post below this one.

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          • #6
            @chepnut - well done!
            Originally posted by ghettocruzer
            I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bugbyte
              @chepnut - well done!

              Thanks

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              • #8
                I can't help but recall the phrase "the blind leading the blind" But heck it ticked me off when my math teacher said it to me and a friend when my friend was filling me in on the easiest way to do some formula from the day before, that I missed...

                Fair play to the n00b

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                • #9
                  So assuming I use nLite to strip down an OS and later on down the road, I decide to add a new hardware piece to my system, am I going to have to use nLite again or can I just use the CD to install the new drivers?
                  2005 Black Chevy Impala
                  Current Status: Installed in Vehicle/Testing 75%

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for all the information everyone! I definately appreciate it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shelbrain
                      So assuming I use nLite to strip down an OS and later on down the road, I decide to add a new hardware piece to my system, am I going to have to use nLite again or can I just use the CD to install the new drivers?
                      You should just be able to add the drivers. It depends on what you need to add. I think nLite is mostly used to remove the many services and components, like MSN or Messenger, that you don't need for the simple carputer install. But some networking services may later be needed if you integrate bluetooth and that sort of thing. You should still be able to add them on later, nLite just keeps you from adding on in the first place and creates an bootable ISO for repeat installs. You'd have to use an original XP disk to install drivers and services not included in the original nLitened install.

                      Originally posted by kirbycope
                      I can't help but recall the phrase "the blind leading the blind" But heck it ticked me off when my math teacher said it to me and a friend when my friend was filling me in on the easiest way to do some formula from the day before, that I missed...
                      Studies show that people learn best by teaching others

                      But, I realize that the more we help out those who ask the questions that we figured out on our own without telling them to or the more we encourage their/our behavior.

                      For that, my apologies.

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                      • #12
                        Quick question. If I boot straight into the frontend and bypass Explorer, will I still have the task bar?

                        The reason why I ask is because I have several important applications running in the background (girder, powerstrip, sync utility, etc.)
                        iGMon - Integration between iGuidance and Road Runner
                        CFX - Skin for Road Runner

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                        • #13
                          The quick answer: No.

                          The long answer: When you boot straight into the front-end using the method explained, you are not loading explorer.exe. This is the program that provides you with the task bar, start button, and desktop icons. You can always run explorer by hitting Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the task manager, selecting Run from the top and then entering "explorer.exe"

                          However, if you change your startup to minlogon, you apparently can't get the task manager unless you employ a work around. I don't remember it so you'd have to search for it.

                          If you really want the taskbar, or what it sounds like, system tray, your other option is to auto-hide the taskbar, and put the front end into the startup directory or the registry HKEY-CurrentUser/LocalMachine (Either will work) -Software-Microsoft-Windows-CurrentVersion-Run.

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                          • #14
                            NeckPayne, thanks. I'll keep the explorer shel, then.
                            iGMon - Integration between iGuidance and Road Runner
                            CFX - Skin for Road Runner

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                            • #15
                              Just realized also that with the task manager you can switch to other applications running in the background. So, your access wouldn't be as instant as it would be to click on them from the task bar, but you'd have it. That might be all you need, not knowing how often you want to switch to those other apps.

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