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    I have contacted the Ohio State Highway Patrol to verify if there are any legalities with screens mounted on the dash or in vision of the driver.

    good news citizens of Ohio USA:!

    Officer John wrote:
    ****** <*******@dps.state.oh.us>to wwwOHP, me, Robert
    9:21 am (11 minutes ago)

    There is no law against a GPS unit or video screens on the dash that may be viewed by the driver except those vehicles in commercial use.



    0okami wrote:
    >>> "0okami" <ookami.digital@gmail.com> 02/16 10:16 AM >>>
    Email Address: ookami.digital@gmail.com
    Question/Comment: Hi Patrol Team!
    I'm a major computer geek... and I need some advice ^_^

    Me and my friends online are putting together custom made computers in our vehicles for GPS navigation, OBD-II diagnostics/monitoring and many multimedia capabilities equal to that of notebook/desktop computers. These computers feature slide-out LCD touch screens.

    My question is on the legality of dash mounting the display of these units where the OEM radio once was. I know newer cars are coming with these systems already from factory, but we want to design our own machines for the cars we own today.

    I hear in most States it is illegal to have the display showing video while the vehicle is in motion (thats totally understandable!) But does that also include using the device for GPS navigation?

    While checking the Ohio Revised Code, I didn't quite find anything relevant which said "dont do it". So I thought "who better to ask than the Patrol them self!"

    ^_^
    Any advice on this subject you can provide me with will be extreamly helpful to me and others venturing into these techno-projects.

    Thank you so much for your time!
    ~0okami.Digital

  • #2
    Where you really concerned that navigation screens would be illegal? With all the newer model cars coming stock w/ nav screens, I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anything illegal about dash mounted screens, other than the obvious rapid-movement animation laws like DVD, Video, Etc. Good verification though.
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    • #3
      The other thing to note, even if you did get pulled over by a cop who claims to have seen video on in your car, just shut off the monitor before he gets up to your car on foot and deny having played video while in motion. Cops can only give you a fine if the video is playing while they approach, or if you admit to doing it. They do not have the authority to have "witnessed it from a far".
      Its not the cards you're dealt, its how you play the hand!

      Originally posted by ryuandwings
      Where can I get a roll of tin foil?
      I been looking for that all over the net, but I can't find it.
      Please help.

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      • #4
        No idea of the laws in the US but anybody in the uk I would think if they see video playing your done whether its on when they get to the car or not. I am thinking this way because of the mobile phone laws and seat belt laws. It doesnt matter if you put your seat belt on or put the phone off before they get to you, if they saw you before its game over. I would think its the same with video. Infact I think it is illegal to even have the facility to play video that the driver can see without the car being parked I.E the device wont work unless the handbrake is on. I would imagine if they test your system and it works without the hanbrake being on they will bust you for that anyway. Not that anybody would be stupid enough to watch video while driving anyway!!
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        • #5
          I have already posted about the legal issue in my state (texas) check it out here:

          http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...ighlight=legal
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          • #6
            Not entirely true. Navigation is legal. Watching a movie/video/tv on your monitor viewable by the driver is totally illegal.
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            • #7
              screens in view of the driver are ilegal here, unless there wired up 2 only work when the car is stopped or not running, thats y i want my screen facing passenger only
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              • #8
                Originally posted by cavramair
                Not entirely true. Navigation is legal. Watching a movie/video/tv on your monitor viewable by the driver is totally illegal.
                The email I posted was sent to me from the Ohio state highway patrol. To my understanding, there are only limitations on commercial vehicles. I'm only going on what the officer said. If you are so certain its illegal, post me where you found your information and how you came to the conclusion its illegal. I'd like to know for sure. (not that I plan on driving while watching a movie)

                I would not mind if you could locate where in the O.R.C. (ohio revised code) it says its not permitted or if there are limitations. http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing...-h.htm&cp=PORC ^_^




                Originally posted by Overdosed A18A
                screens in view of the driver are ilegal here, unless there wired up 2 only work when the car is stopped or not running, thats y i want my screen facing passenger only
                Are you talking about here as "Ohio"?
                ~0okami.Digital

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                • #9
                  ^_^





                  Are you talking about here as "Ohio"?[/QUOTE]

                  I doubt it as his location is showing as New Zeland
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                  • #10
                    For those interested, here is the statute from Florida:

                    The 2005 Florida Statutes

                    Title XXIII
                    MOTOR VEHICLES

                    Chapter 316
                    STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL

                    316.303 Television receivers.--

                    (1) No motor vehicle operated on the highways of this state shall be equipped with television-type receiving equipment so located that the viewer or screen is visible from the driver's seat.

                    (2) This section does not prohibit the use of television-type receiving equipment used exclusively for safety or law enforcement purposes, provided such use is approved by the department.

                    (3) This section does not prohibit the use of an electronic display used in conjunction with a vehicle navigation system.

                    (4) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

                    History.--s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 1, ch. 76-31; s. 26, ch. 94-306; s. 218, ch. 99-248.

                    Note.--Former s. 316.275.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Overdosed A18A
                      screens in view of the driver are ilegal here, unless there wired up 2 only work when the car is stopped or not running, thats y i want my screen facing passenger only
                      So there aren't any new cars with Navigation where you live?

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                      • #12
                        As far as just turning it off when the officer approaches I don't think you'd win that battle, you'd still get the ticket, especially if you tried to argue and say you weren't playing a video. At the point it's probably worth it just to pay the basic traffice fine then mess around with court. If he pulled you over and then you turned it off and tried to say that it was never one then unless he's feeling extra nice that day you probably won't get off.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nkotch
                          For those interested, here is the statute from Florida:

                          ...

                          (3) This section does not prohibit the use of an electronic display used in conjunction with a vehicle navigation system.
                          So then I guess in Florida the trick is to make sure your carputer has GPS, then it would be entirely legal. (wording does not say screen must be used soley for GPS... )
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                          • #14
                            i kno it's legal to have gps visible to the driver seeing as how it can be used to help you in high-traffic areas and route long-trips and tell you where congestions are and what-not. on the other hand, it is illegal (anywhere in the u.s.) to have video playing (be it music videos, dvd, tv, whatever) because the driver could be doing 80mph down the highway and looking down at the screen watching video and not paying attention to the cars slowing down for construction and rear-end somebody possibly killing/injuring people. if you search online you can find alot of articles about people being killed cuz of drivers watching video while driving and crashing into other vehicles. idk how big of a ticket or the extent of the offense for killing someone cuz you were watching tv is but i don't wanna find out. as many accidents as i've been in in the past 2 years, i'd rather not take that risk. just my .02 cents.
                            btw i'm from oklahoma city, ok.
                            peace

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