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    This is my first post here and would really appreciate any feedback. With that said this sounds like a really fun project, but I have no idea where to start. Basically, I want to install a computer in my car for these purposes:
    1) Listen to music and movies from a hard drive
    2) GPS (Possibly)
    3) Cellphone integrated into audio and computer (I dont know if this possible)

    Those are main concerns I was also curious if you can somehow access tv from a moving car or internet.

    So here is what I have:
    Car 2000 A4 2.8

    Extra computer
    Amd 3000 939 processor
    Biostar micro motherboard onboard video
    80gig hard drive (will get more)
    PVR 150 tv tuner
    Power Supply 450watt
    1gig ram
    cd/dvd burner
    Windows XP

    Things I think I need
    Touch screen

    Basic questions
    How do you power the computer from your car and how do you start it up using the ignition?

    Do they make dashboard adapters for monitors for an audi? Or do I have to make this myself?

    How hard is it to wire an Audi using its original speakers, and how much of the car needs to be dismantled?

    These are only a few of my questions and I would really like some help for anyone hear that has some good advice. My biggest fear is screwing up my car. Anyhow thanks for any ideas.

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    My god! Where do you start? Maybe you should read the stickey that says "WHERE DO I START!"

    *slap*
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    • #3
      Purdoom,
      iGMon - Integration between iGuidance and Road Runner
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      • #4
        Well your clearly more observant than me and also more of an ***. I apologize for missing that thread, but it always amazes me when someone who's on a forum goes after someone else. If you don't want to help then why don't you just, not help. People act as if it is so time consuming to glance at a post that may be redundant and then proceed to spend another five or ten minutes creating a post to belittle them. Personally, if I could help someone or answer there questions I would, then maybe suggest they take a look at the "Where to start" post, but you're clearly to busy being a jerk to answer questions. Also if this post is creating confusion because of the title I apologize that was not my intention.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by j282
          Well your clearly more observant than me and also more of an ***. I apologize for missing that thread, but it always amazes me when someone who's on a forum goes after someone else. If you don't want to help then why don't you just, not help. People act as if it is so time consuming to glance at a post that may be redundant and then proceed to spend another five or ten minutes creating a post to belittle them. Personally, if I could help someone or answer there questions I would, then maybe suggest they take a look at the "Where to start" post, but you're clearly to busy being a jerk to answer questions. Also if this post is creating confusion because of the title I apologize that was not my intention.
          Current projects: iGmod reloaded (Latest release) (put on hiatus indefinatly)

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          • #6
            Purdoom isnt trying to dishearten you....
            LOL
            see people dont liek to spoon feed information and many will tell you to search and such as well

            I suggest, browse, search, browse repeat

            Then after you have a nice clear cut idea on what the heck you want to do then post questions......

            as for the cell connection into your audio system. Yes its possible, especially with a phone that uses bluetooth technology... thats alll i know so now you must !
            Brown 2010

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            • #7
              Thanks I appreciate that. I understand it can get hard to reply to a lot of similar beginner posts and I apologize for flooding the forum with a little more of that. I've already started reading and there is a lot of good info here. However, if I can get the answer to one question it would be really nice. The parts I listed are not like computer parts that are recommended for a car (processor and mb) because of the power they consume. Will it be cost effective for me to build a car pc with what I have now or will have to spend a lot more because of those parts? I just want to understand the cost that will go into this process before I get to far ahead of myself. Thanks again

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              • #8
                my first 3 systems used standard desktop boards. No mobile units at all. They all worked fine in the car. I suggest reading up on the PSU's. Many support 150w and up. These numbers are equivilant to those of a basic AC PSU. you souldnt have much of a problem nor a huge pocket draw
                Brown 2010

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                • #9
                  An m2-atx should power all that fine, and I personally endorse the product as being a piece of cake to set up and quite reliable. Solves the shutdown controler part of the equation too.

                  However, some people have reported overheating and breaking of m2-atx units, so don't stress them too hard. They say they can provide 160 watts of power, but I wouldn't try to use more than 100.
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                  • #10
                    Well if the M2 is as good or better than the M1 then its a great piece of electronics. I have used an M1 for a long time now without any problem! and yeah its an excellent shutdown start up unit!
                    Brown 2010

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                    • #11
                      @j282 - I have a 2003 A4 that I am putting a carputer in. Check my worklog in my sig, it has a neat diagram and pics and stuff!!!

                      It may help to visualize on a similar car so also search for other B5 platform Audi installs. Read, read, read... it all starts to make sense after a long time.

                      Good luck on your project and have fun!

                      EDIT: The answer to a few of your questions...

                      Is there an LCD adapter?
                      No, not at this time. For your model you need to remove the dash piece and fabricate a LCD faceplate into it. I would recomend buying a spare dash kit to work on so you don't have to drive around dashless forever.

                      Can I use the factory audio system?
                      This is a question I am researching for my on project as well. Seems a LOC (Line Out Converter) is what is needed to connect audio out from the PC to the factory amp/speaker setup. Do you have the Bose system? Follow this thread for the progress of my audio hookup... http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=78787

                      Also, start a worklog, it is helpful for people to give tips on your project and to organize your thoughts. Post pics too, people love pics...
                      ~Puff

                      View my worklog... I dare you... http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=77267

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                      • #12
                        keep the individual power rails in mind...sure the M2 can handle 160 watts! but what about the individual rails?!!!!????!

                        it's rarely ever that cut and dry, just remember that...

                        and yea!

                        the thread has been put to good use, yet again!
                        Jan Bennett
                        FS: VW MKIV Bezel for 8" Lilliput - 95% Finished

                        Please post on the forums! Chances are, someone else has or will have the same questions as you!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by j282
                          Well your clearly more observant than me and also more of an ***. I apologize for missing that thread, but it always amazes me when someone who's on a forum goes after someone else. If you don't want to help then why don't you just, not help. People act as if it is so time consuming to glance at a post that may be redundant and then proceed to spend another five or ten minutes creating a post to belittle them. Personally, if I could help someone or answer there questions I would, then maybe suggest they take a look at the "Where to start" post, but you're clearly to busy being a jerk to answer questions. Also if this post is creating confusion because of the title I apologize that was not my intention.
                          Whoa. No name-calling. Your lack of looking before leaping brought this on.

                          In regards to your motherboard question, NO motherboard is designed for vehicle use, so you're pretty much in teh same boat as everyone else. The key is low-power, low heat, and small space. For some, the space isn't an issue. TheLandYacht's 2tb party taxi comes to mind....

                          To be honest, your proposed setup is WAY overkill for a vehicle. The Athlon64 CPUs draw a lot of power, too, which makes them poor choices for a vehicle environment where power is limited. I'm not saying you wouldn't be able to use it, but you're going to face some challenges as a result.
                          Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
                          How about the Wiki?



                          Under normal circumstances, a signature would go here.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by j282
                            Thanks I appreciate that. I understand it can get hard to reply to a lot of similar beginner posts and I apologize for flooding the forum with a little more of that.
                            Originally posted by j282
                            If you don't want to help then why don't you just, not help. People act as if it is so time consuming to glance at a post that may be redundant and then proceed to spend another five or ten minutes creating a post to belittle them.
                            if new people to the forum searched more, there would be less redundant beginner posts. if there were less posts like this, then it would be easier to search. all you are doing is making it harder for the next guy. it's not about ripping you, it's about keeping the forum clean, useful and easy to navigate.



                            so let's try and make this thread useful for you, and the next guy/girl. here is more advice about component selection:

                            the first place to look is obviously the FAQ. enough said.

                            if you want to know component suggestions, why dont you look at the "show off you project section". there are plenty of completed installations. they list their components and you can get a good idea of what's being used. you can then look at your setup and see if it too much, too little, or not in line with the standard installation. then you could search the individual sections to determine pros/cons about your component versus the more widely used.

                            another way is to look at the (probably) hundreds of newbie posts entitled "check out my setup" or similar. because you are not the first person to speak before you think. you could see other people's questions and see the answers given to them. darque and others have reviewed and commented on countless newbie parts lists.

                            the bottom line is that there are probably many people is the same boat as you this early in the game. just about every question you can think of right now has already been asked. start reading and you'll find answers to the questions you have, and answers to questions you didn't even think about.

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                            • #15
                              Freelander - much of what you went through the trouble of typing out has already been posted...for this very reason!



                              http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=78795
                              Jan Bennett
                              FS: VW MKIV Bezel for 8" Lilliput - 95% Finished

                              Please post on the forums! Chances are, someone else has or will have the same questions as you!

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