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  • A Real Car PC - 1999 Honda Accord Ex project

    Ok i'm new to the forms but Ima techie, IT gal. I have yet to see a real carpc on here.
    All i see is ppl putting computers in there cars but using car software.
    to me that defeats the purpose.

    So I'm gonna do a real project and I need a little help from you.
    I'm clueless to cars and audio.

    So this is my proposed setup:

    I have a 99 Honda Accord EX 4cyl
    what I want to do:

    screen: Lilliput 8" open frame touch screen
    http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_8_4..._p/mon-117.htm
    (I need help with the framing it. like what do I need to do? I want a factory look)

    anti-glare screen cover:
    http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-invisible.../dp/B0038BZ8W8

    my pc:
    http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-MAG-Inte.../dp/B0030UH2J4

    (I plan on taking it out of the housing and putting it in my factory dash unit behind the screen like this guy):
    http://www.mp3car.com/fabrication/68...ps-indash.html

    I don't want to build one. too expensive.

    I'm gonna Run windows XP pro my custom edition w/ moovida media center for my music
    internet radio
    and I'm gonna use VR commander for my voice recognition
    Nano bluetooth 2.1 dongle for my calls n route err thing through my GV
    tether My HTC HD2 w/ Android I put on it for internet Tethering
    buy a gps receiver for my phone for Car GPS [USB]
    put in a laptop synaptic's touchpad next to my cig lighter for a mouse[gotta figure out if I can convert the cable to a usb and make it longer]
    put in another cig lighter in my armrest for an inverter of some sort
    install a switch in the dash for comp on/off. not auto with ignition start

    any suggestions on how I can do my power? high performance battery? mouse options? EQ's for car audio?

    My goal is to use my xp as my radio, dvd player, gps, bluetooth with no use for crappy car software gui's. [no offense]

    thanks for listening
    Last edited by intrygue83; 02-22-2011, 01:10 PM.

  • #2
    Well, good luck with that. Looking at the list of components and capabilities, it doesn't look any different from any of the hundreds of car PC's that have come before.
    Originally posted by ghettocruzer
    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    • #3
      damn dats all i get? no insight? lol. thanks anyway

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      • #4
        To be honest, I find your post a bit insulting. Many of us have been through generations of carPCs as the technology has developed over the years. I myself have build atleast 4.

        A real carPC? Real CarPC's dont use inverters, they use a purpose built power supply for carPC's.

        Anti glare cover? LMAO!! Look for a transflective TOUCHscreen, not a glidepad. You have to drive the car, not fumble with a glidepad. Thats a wreck waiting to happen.

        A Laptop is not a REAL carPC, it's a laptop, maybe on a docking station, with a switch wired in.

        As far as phone tethering, I've been doing that for years.

        The so called "crappy software GUI's" you mention was a lot of HARD work and developing from LOTS of people. THese individuals didnt ask for money, and many give it away free so those of us who know what a REAL carPC is can have a way to interfaCE ALL THE real COMPONENTS OF A CARpc.

        Not to come off as a jerk but you come on here and say "you have yet to see a real car PC", yet your proposed setup is novice. You should do more research before downing what others have, over years, put their knowledge together to come up with what today is considered a carPC. I remember using a tower with an inverter and LCD display through AUX in and a PS2 glide point almost 10 years ago. There were no 7" LCDs, just small B/W LCDs which display was sent through parallel.
        Last edited by Custommx3; 02-22-2011, 11:47 AM.
        2011 Nissan Frontier SL
        AMD X3 2.2 | M4-ATX | 16Gb SSD | 2GB DDR3-1333 | MSI GF615M-P33 MB
        OBDPROS USB | BU-303 GPS l LILLIPUT TS | Car2PC adapter | XM Direct | USB Dual band N with custom mag-mount antenna.

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        • #5
          Just what is your definition of a "Real car PC"?

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          • #6
            This is just too funny! I'll be keeping an eye on this to see were it goes.

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            • #7
              Insulting the general membership and then asking them for assistance will probably not work in your favor.


              I see a number of flaws in your plan, but you don't want my advice, since I don't have a "real" carPC.
              Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
              How about the Wiki?



              Under normal circumstances, a signature would go here.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by barnyard View Post
                Just what is your definition of a "Real car PC"?
                Originally posted by barnyard View Post
                Just what is your definition of a "Real car PC"?
                A car with a PC built in it. Duhh
                ======

                jk. a "computer" built in the vehicle where as to enjoy entertainment and also monitor vehicle's condition as far as gauges and etc..

                to me a CarPC is a computer that does it all from the desktop.

                ex: XP desktop, media center controls my music. Radio is controlled by software. Voice recognition does everything also. with the added touch of a mouse somewhere flushed to look factory.

                I don't like the gui's because to me there not...... I can't find a word. I guess they need more themes so to speak. more so let the user really customize the interface. guess I don't like the way most of them look. But there awesome. jus not for me.

                I'm a Techie and I want to do everything I normally do on my laptop's desktop, on my Carputer
                =======

                am I wrong about this definition?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RAWPWR View Post
                  This is just too funny! I'll be keeping an eye on this to see were it goes.
                  I said the same thing. maybe I need to monitor ppl's cyber feelings from now on HA

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Custommx3 View Post
                    To be honest, I find your post a bit insulting. Many of us have been through generations of carPCs as the technology has developed over the years. I myself have build atleast 4.

                    A real carPC? Real CarPC's dont use inverters, they use a purpose built power supply for carPC's.

                    Anti glare cover? LMAO!! Look for a transflective TOUCHscreen, not a glidepad. You have to drive the car, not fumble with a glidepad. Thats a wreck waiting to happen.

                    A Laptop is not a REAL carPC, it's a laptop, maybe on a docking station, with a switch wired in.

                    As far as phone tethering, I've been doing that for years.

                    The so called "crappy software GUI's" you mention was a lot of HARD work and developing from LOTS of people. THese individuals didnt ask for money, and many give it away free so those of us who know what a REAL carPC is can have a way to interfaCE ALL THE real COMPONENTS OF A CARpc.

                    Not to come off as a jerk but you come on here and say "you have yet to see a real car PC", yet your proposed setup is novice. You should do more research before downing what others have, over years, put their knowledge together to come up with what today is considered a carPC. I remember using a tower with an inverter and LCD display through AUX in and a PS2 glide point almost 10 years ago. There were no 7" LCDs, just small B/W LCDs which display was sent through parallel.
                    well add some insight then guy. tell me what am I doing wrong with my setup.

                    about the inverter i want to put one in for the use of repairing my clients computers on the go. not for my actual setup. [I didn't state that either so I can see how you assumed that]
                    I'm planning on wiring it to my battery. Thats why I came here. to get insight.
                    If you found some of my words insulting then my apologies. I'm not tryna upset nobody. jus tryna get help.
                    honestly i have had good experience with anti-glare protectors in the past. don't see how this will be different. do explain if you don't mind.
                    peace

                    ---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:54 PM ----------

                    and what would be a good way to fit my 8" screen in? i wanna gut out my factory double din radio and put the pc behind it and mount screen in front.

                    I can post pics if that will help

                    ---------- Post added at 03:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:01 PM ----------

                    this is my board inside my mini:
                    http://www.frys.com/product/6178589

                    this is my power supply in it:
                    http://store.mp3car.com/Mini_Box_pic..._p/pwr-043.htm

                    how can I mod this to get it with my battery? I don't want it to auto start. I'm gonna build a switch

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                    • #11
                      Sounds like what you want is what we've all been calling CarPCs for years.

                      Centrafuse and RideRunner, and possibly many others, allow for complete customization (using real programming languages, like C+ and C#, in addition to scripting languages like AS3). There are existing plugins for both of those interfaces to monitor absolutely anything your OBD-II port can put out, all via a serial->USB converters, and they run on Windows so you can get in and build all the batch files, subsequent programs, and scripts that you want. You can export it to XML, track it in your spreadsheet program of choice, and set it up to control the volume of your music based on your current MPG. Put in a 4G USB dongle, and you can fully power you own website from your car (it'll just be slow as hell).

                      Or are you looking to fully replace the onboard computer, and have your own computer decide how much fuel to send to the ports, ect?

                      Really, it sounds like you're in the right place, but you're coming across with a bad attitude and proof that you skipped the Newbie and FAQ threads.


                      I've worked IT for 6 years... I skipped those forums, too, and asked a bunch of stupid questions when I first got here. Now I read 100x more than I post.
                      Last edited by MatneyX; 02-22-2011, 04:20 PM.
                      "Have we grown so hard we can't feel right or wrong, or have we grown so cold we just don't care?" - Dave Matney

                      I don't currently have a CarPC, I just ask a lot of questions.

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                      • #12
                        I agree with all above. Most people here do this as a hobby and spend allot of time building them and then building another. When you come here saying "I have yet to see a real carpc on here" it's like me telling you to get a real car!

                        We are here having fun and the best way to get help is being nice.

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                        • #13
                          Your original post was modified, now I look even more like a jerk

                          Here's my thoughts....

                          Do not use a glidepad, most monitors are touchscreen. Anti-glare screens can cause issues with the responsiveness of yoru touchscreen. Buy a transflecticve one.

                          Atom based PC's may look nice, but their lack-luster performance doesnt make up for it. If you plan on using something for gauges (palmerperformance.com - verify it will work with your car), you will need more horsepower. Get at least a dual core AMD or Intel. Use a Micro-ATX or mini/pico ITX. Get an SSD HD, you'll thank yourself later. Since your a "techie" then build your own PC, dont wste your money on the one you mentioned. Get a DC power supply. I have build several carPCs for others, so I suggest getting an M4-ATX.

                          If you want this all to work fluidly, I suggest you pic a front end. If you dont like the look of it, you can modify it as I and others have done, to your liking.

                          To give you an idea of boot times, with no peripherals plugged in (NIC, BT, car2PC, XM, KB, OBDII reader, and touchscreen) its 5.24 seconds from BIOS to Full interface with my setup. With it all plugged in, its about 11 seconds.
                          2011 Nissan Frontier SL
                          AMD X3 2.2 | M4-ATX | 16Gb SSD | 2GB DDR3-1333 | MSI GF615M-P33 MB
                          OBDPROS USB | BU-303 GPS l LILLIPUT TS | Car2PC adapter | XM Direct | USB Dual band N with custom mag-mount antenna.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by intrygue83 View Post
                            screen: Lilliput 8" open frame touch screen
                            http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_8_4..._p/mon-117.htm
                            (I need help with the framing it. like what do I need to do? I want a factory look)
                            http://www.mp3car.com/fabrication/85...ory-bezel.html

                            http://www.mp3car.com/fabrication/36...dvd-drive.html

                            Originally posted by intrygue83 View Post
                            buy a gps receiver for my phone for Car GPS [USB]
                            Your phone should already have GPS, but you're better off using the same round black GPS unit that everyone else on here seems to love, considering you want your CarPC to be UI for the GPS (for the life of me, I can't remember what it's called)..

                            Originally posted by intrygue83 View Post
                            install a switch in the dash for comp on/off. not auto with ignition start
                            Run a momentary button from the pins on your mobo to the new location. Quick and dirty, but effective. If you want it to be more clean, wire it into a 1/8" TS or TRS jack in the case, and run a second audio cable up with it.

                            Originally posted by intrygue83 View Post
                            any suggestions on how I can do my power? high performance battery? mouse options? EQ's for car audio?
                            http://store.mp3car.com/Power_Products_s/2.htm

                            A newer battery would help, if you're looking to run subs and other high watt amps. Personally, I'd run a capacitor just for the computer, too, but I'm paranoid of power sag effecting my computer.

                            You shouldn't need a mouse with a touch screen, especially if you install a virtual mouse for your right click, but you can put a USB port in your cab and just hook up a mouse when you need it. For volume and stuff, if you want an actual knob, look into Fusion Brain and Phidgets.

                            For EQ, considering you're bypassing a standard interface, consider Wow Media Player from SRS audio (http://wowmediaplayer.srslabs.com/)
                            "Have we grown so hard we can't feel right or wrong, or have we grown so cold we just don't care?" - Dave Matney

                            I don't currently have a CarPC, I just ask a lot of questions.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MatneyX View Post
                              Sounds like what you want is what we've all been calling CarPCs for years.

                              Centrafuse and RoadRunner, and possibly many others, allow for complete customization (using real programming languages, like C+ and C#, in addition to scripting languages like AS3). There are existing plugins for both of those interfaces to monitor absolutely anything your OBD-II port can put out, all via a serial->USB converters, and they run on Windows so you can get in and build all the batch files, subsequent programs, and scripts that you want. You can export it to XML, track it in your spreadsheet program of choice, and set it up to control the volume of your music based on your current MPG. Put in a 4G USB dongle, and you can fully power you own website from your car (it'll just be slow as hell).

                              Or are you looking to fully replace the onboard computer, and have your own computer decide how much fuel to send to the ports, ect?

                              Really, it sounds like you're in the right place, but you're coming across with a bad attitude and proof that you skipped the Newbie and FAQ threads.


                              I've worked IT for 6 years... I skipped those forums, too, and asked a bunch of stupid questions when I first got here. Now I read 100x more than I post.
                              thanks guy. and your right I skipped all of that. just watched some youtube vids on all of the programs like centrafuse. I hate programming geesh! [random thought] but it would be fun though. didn't know you could customize em like that.

                              I don't wat to fully replace the computer. don't feel like building one because I don't have the time to do that and run a business. I think I need to pull the board out of the original casing and build my own and add a fan for cooling. I just can't figure out how to convert the power from the mini atx to the battery. I see the molex's but what part do I need to run it to the battery?

                              and again thanks for the input

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