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    Can anyone tell me where to get a Shutdown controller. I haved emailed a few people about it, Jeff, MP3car.com and some other guys but no one seems to be able to help.

    I'm in the UK and desperately need a way of automatically shutting down the PC. It is such as hassle switching it of manually. I put a relay in the 12v+ line to the inverter and ran it to the acc so my battery doesn't go flat anymore when I forget to switch it off but It's not too happy with me when I start of stop the engine. The PC just powers off.
    Please somebody help!

    PS Just got a 120GB HD and using it to play my DVD's straight from the hard drive. It's great, no more discs, it's just like a changer.
    Mazda 323F
    Lilliput 7in
    Toshiba Tecra, MapMonkey, DVD, EZ Sync, Roadrunner

  • #2
    talk to mastero he sells them for US$25
    Never let the truth get in the way of a good story

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    • #3
      If you want something simple to keep powering the PC for a few minutes after you've cut the ignition, try my circuit:

      http://www.astron.nl/~smirnov/poweroff.html

      If you want your OS to do a proper shutdown first, look for a real shutdown controller.
      Custom Linux system on an '89 VW GTI 16V Edition One
      Jogdial volume control, Sony joystick, IR remote...
      Used to be the fastest Linux on the road, until all these NOS types came along...

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      • #4
        danl .. looks like you have not visited the cyber shop.. www.mastero.tk

        ne way i am on a vacation shall be back onlne after the 6th

        till then
        Bye

        Mastero

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        • #5
          Cheers

          Mastero,
          Ok I have checked it out and it looks good.
          I've sent you an email and order for the ATX Controller.
          Thanks very much
          Mazda 323F
          Lilliput 7in
          Toshiba Tecra, MapMonkey, DVD, EZ Sync, Roadrunner

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          • #6
            Re: Cheers

            Keep in mind that you may have to use a different relay and add some extra trace to Mastero's shutdown controller. With more and more people using Keypower/Opus/Arise power supplies to power P4s and AMDs, it is more and more of an issue. I don't think the relay he used has contact ratings over a few amps. Plus the traces and the gauge of the wire limits the current you can put through it. Keep in mind that a 25 mil (a mill is 1/1000 of an inch) trace is only rated for about 0.7 amps. If it is really short then it is just a small resistor. But If you have a long one, the resistance really starts to make a difference. If you want to make sure it won't start a fire or anything. Measure the ammount of voltage drop from the wire at the input to the wire at the output when the computer is on.

            If it is more than a few tens of millivolts, then you have shutdown heater.

            -Jeff
            MPEGBOX - Plexiglass Computer
            www.mpegbox.com

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            • #7
              Hey thanx jeff shall be updateing the Controller soon shall keep in mind the points you put forward.

              Mastero

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              • #8
                do any of these things actually shut it down properly though? or just turn it off after a certain amount of time? i need something to make the computer go on standby...? this possible?

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                • #9
                  The shutdown controllers mentioned here actually send a shutdown signal to ATX mobos (via the ATX PWR header). You can usually configure that to do standby or hibernate instead.

                  My circuit simply cuts power after a delay, that's all. I just use two of them in series to do a proper shutdown. The first circuit has a long (~15 min) delay, once it fires, Linux begins to shut down, while the second circuit keeps it powered for another 15 seconds. (I interfaced the shutdown signal via the joystick port.)
                  Custom Linux system on an '89 VW GTI 16V Edition One
                  Jogdial volume control, Sony joystick, IR remote...
                  Used to be the fastest Linux on the road, until all these NOS types came along...

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                  • #10
                    Last week I just finished building this circuit -

                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dashpc...%20circuit.jpg

                    It's by Micheal Carr that hangs out on the dashpc groups there at yahoo. You may have to subscribe to the group in order to see that file.

                    Anyways, this circuit runs beautifully. It simply simulates a power button press to the motherboard whenever the circuit senses power on or power off from the 12v accessory line.

                    I use an EPIA 800 MB, and WindowsXP - XP is set to go on standy whenever the power button is pressed. The result, 8 second boot time.

                    Mind you, this is only beneficial if you're using a DC-DC powersupply. Powerdraw from the motherboard is around 700milliamps (eq. to powerdraw on your car radio for keeping presets stored).

                    It doesn't have any type of time delay, but you could easily add one to this circuit by just doing a search - there's been posted a few seperate circuits for simply just producing a time delay.
                    Brian Cozzens
                    Duke Nukem Forever / Max Payne
                    www.3drealms.com

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                    • #11
                      Are R1 and R2 actually 10Meg Ohm, or was that a typo and menat to be 10k?

                      -Mario

                      Originally posted by Whaleboy
                      Last week I just finished building this circuit -

                      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dashpc...%20circuit.jpg

                      It's by Micheal Carr that hangs out on the dashpc groups there at yahoo. You may have to subscribe to the group in order to see that file.

                      Anyways, this circuit runs beautifully. It simply simulates a power button press to the motherboard whenever the circuit senses power on or power off from the 12v accessory line.

                      I use an EPIA 800 MB, and WindowsXP - XP is set to go on standy whenever the power button is pressed. The result, 8 second boot time.

                      Mind you, this is only beneficial if you're using a DC-DC powersupply. Powerdraw from the motherboard is around 700milliamps (eq. to powerdraw on your car radio for keeping presets stored).

                      It doesn't have any type of time delay, but you could easily add one to this circuit by just doing a search - there's been posted a few seperate circuits for simply just producing a time delay.

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                      • #12
                        It's supposed to be 10k, thats what I used with mine.
                        Brian Cozzens
                        Duke Nukem Forever / Max Payne
                        www.3drealms.com

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                        • #13
                          Maybe 'I'm just tired, but I'd almost swear that the ATX switch would be in a constant connected mode with this. Whether the ignition is on or off.

                          Like I said, maybe I'm just tired...

                          Time to break out the breadboard...

                          -Mario

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                          • #14
                            To OMS

                            In your schematic is the 40UF capacitor a polarised one or not.
                            Thanks.

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                            • #15
                              I heard somebody mention a power draw of 700mA for a car radio in standby mode. Your car battery would last a week if you were lucky! A friend of mine has installed an old car radio in his garage, and we used a 9v battery to back up the memory when we turn off the home built PSU. It lasts for months without changing, so surely the drain can't be that much.
                              Matthew

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