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    Hello, I have a d945gclf2 and the m2-atx psu, some days ago my board died so I replaced it with another d945gclf2, and replaced the buggy m4-atx with m2-atx, wich have been working in other carpc.

    But now, when I hibernate, it is too slow, so m2 power off before it has finish, and when I start pc, it starts xp from the begining.

    I have 1 gb. of ram, but I think this is not the problem because my other mobo worked well.

    Some idea??

    Thanks.

    Ps. I have tried minlogo but it always starts as "system" and not my user account

  • #2
    Increase the time that the M2 cuts off all power by rearranging the jumpers (refer to manual)? Or speed up hibernation by decreasing the amount of ram.

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    • #3
      Yeah, I have thought that I should set the 1 min + 1 hour mode, or buy a 512 mb. ram, but my doubt is: Why it didn't happen with my last mobo? Could I do anything else? (I would prefer a software solution because my pc is really hidden)

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      • #4
        1 min + is a bit long to go into hibernation. For convenience, I personally wouldnt want to set the power timer to anything over 1 min, just so I can more easily have the M2 cut power should the system crash.

        Different motherboards will hibernate at different speeds. Maybe benchmark your hard drive (Crystal Disk Info, HD Tube) and see how fast it is? Perhaps that is your bottleneck. You can tweak your hard drive speed by enabling write caching in the device manager, or poke around the BIOS's settings. You dont need to buy a 512mb stick, if you've already got 1GB, you can just go into msconfig and set maxmem=512, that way windows will only use 512mb.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by nobb View Post
          1 min + is a bit long to go into hibernation. For convenience, I personally wouldnt want to set the power timer to anything over 1 min, just so I can more easily have the M2 cut power should the system crash.
          I agree.

          Originally posted by nobb View Post
          Different motherboards will hibernate at different speeds.
          But it is exactly the same model of mobo, with the same bios and the same connections...

          Originally posted by nobb View Post
          Maybe benchmark your hard drive (Crystal Disk Info, HD Tube) and see how fast it is? Perhaps that is your bottleneck. You can tweak your hard drive speed by enabling write caching in the device manager, or poke around the BIOS's settings.
          This is the same hard drive too, but there is a difference; when I stuck the power wire, it moved a little, maybe it has a bad connection?

          The m4-atx had a 24-pin molex, and the m2 has 20-pins; the mobo manual says it doesn't bother, but may it be a difference?


          Originally posted by nobb View Post
          You dont need to buy a 512mb stick, if you've already got 1GB, you can just go into msconfig and set maxmem=512, that way windows will only use 512mb.
          I'm gonna try this.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hammerhand View Post
            I'm gonna try this.
            Didn't work...

            I've tried to unplug my rcjoycon and now xp starts much faster than before (I don't know why);

            And I've seen that my mobo doesn't keep the time and date (don't know why)

            I think I'm gonna try to reinstall xp

            Any idea?

            Would it be possible that m4 had a 24-pin molex and m2 only a 20-pin molex, so it has power problems? Should I return to my buggy m4?

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            • #7
              This happened to me but more of a random switch for me. I didn't change motherboards or anything. Hibernate just randomly starting taking about a min and randomly sped up too. I wish i could say I have a solution for you.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bxsteez View Post
                This happened to me but more of a random switch for me. I didn't change motherboards or anything. Hibernate just randomly starting taking about a min and randomly sped up too. I wish i could say I have a solution for you.
                Thank you anyway, I have reinstalled xp and all the drivers and still the same, so I think it have to be a power problem.

                When I was mounting the pc it drained my battery, and since then it haven't had a total charge, may it bother?

                So now, I only can think about five problems:

                1. The mobo is the problem; it is completely new but there is something wrong.

                2. The m2 doesn't feed the system well (20pin)

                3. The battery is drained so I must charge

                4. The hard disk is a bottleneck (don't know why, it worked well before, maybe power?)

                5. The RcJoycon makes my system start slower (about 10 seconds slower) and sometimes the mobo stays waiting for something when it is connected and I have to reset to start. Edit: This is not the problem because I have unplugged the rcjoycon and the problem is still here, but what is happening with it? It was warking well before...


                Any idea?

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                • #9
                  Well first of all, you probably might wat to take a few things out of the equation to make it easier to diagnose whats going on.

                  1) You have to charge (or replace) the car battery, if its very low its gonna be erratic.

                  2) You said the details in the bios dont stay as you set them, is the onboard battery (the little disc shaped battery on the MB) dead?

                  3) Any way you can get a laptop power supply (brick) and test the PC and M2 startup and shut down in the house ? As long as the brick is the correct voltage, and your car pc is wired in a common way (red lead = constant 12v, white lead = accessory power and black lead = ground) you just need to connect the positive from the brick to the red and the white wries and the negative to the balck one.

                  If you can get it running and restarting properly outside the car you may have better luck getting it installed and running in the vehicle.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jistari View Post
                    Well first of all, you probably might wat to take a few things out of the equation to make it easier to diagnose whats going on.

                    1) You have to charge (or replace) the car battery, if its very low its gonna be erratic.
                    This is the first thing I'm gonna do.

                    Originally posted by Jistari View Post
                    2) You said the details in the bios dont stay as you set them, is the onboard battery (the little disc shaped battery on the MB) dead?
                    It seems to be random, it keeps the details but not the time/date, and some times it does

                    Originally posted by Jistari View Post
                    3) Any way you can get a laptop power supply (brick) and test the PC and M2 startup and shut down in the house? As long as the brick is the correct voltage, and your car pc is wired in a common way (red lead = constant 12v, white lead = accessory power and black lead = ground) you just need to connect the positive from the brick to the red and the white wries and the negative to the balck one.
                    I didn't want to do it because my system is deep over the glove compartment, but I think I am gonna have to buy a laptor psu and try this; the wires are correct; how should I connect it to the laptop psu? (yellow/black wires?)

                    Originally posted by Jistari View Post
                    If you can get it running and restarting properly outside the car you may have better luck getting it installed and running in the vehicle.
                    If it works outside the car, what should I do?

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                    • #11
                      You didnt mention what you are gona do to test if the onboard battery is good?

                      This is what it looks like

                      [IMG][/IMG]

                      The silver circular battery in the upper left corner. Just make sure its in correctly, not moving and charged (its a longshot, but you mentioned it wasnt keeping the bios info, and that will screw things up) Easy enough to replace anyway.

                      Regarding "how to connect the wires", cant help ya there with your system. I described how mine is wired and how to connect it if yours is wired the same, read back.

                      You dont necessarily have to pull the unit out of the car if its fabbed in there in some inconvenient way. If you had access to the wires going to the pc, those are the ones you would connect the psu to. If there is a molex connector on the outside of your case that you ran the wires from the car ot, you could just get another one (at Radio Shack) and wire that up to the laptop brick so you would have that available to power the pc for out of vehicle testing.

                      Im a little fuzzy on how you think you're gonna get to the bottom of this if you cant get the pc out of the car to test it.

                      There is also a rather long post here :

                      http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/gene...core-atom.html

                      that goes over a lot of details about your mb. You might want to read through as much of that as you can.

                      Good luck
                      PDP1170/TRS80/Atari800XL/Amiga500/286/486/P2/P4/C2D/i7 still a newb (but an old newb, been doing this a while) working my way up to "Complete Newb"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jistari View Post
                        You didnt mention what you are gona do to test if the onboard battery is good?

                        This is what it looks like

                        [IMG][/IMG]

                        The silver circular battery in the upper right corner. Just make sure its in correctly, not moving and charged (its a longshot, but you mentioned it wasnt keeping the bios info, and that will screw things up) Easy enough to replace anyway.

                        Regarding "how to connect the wires", cant help ya there with your system. I described how mine is wired and how to connect it if yours is wired the same, read back.

                        You dont necessarily have to pull the unit out of the car if its fabbed in there in some inconvenient way. If you had access to the wires going to the pc, those are the ones you would connect the psu to.

                        Im a little fuzzy on how you think you're gonna get to the bottom of this if you cant get the pc out of the car to test it.
                        Well, I thought the battery should be fine, because the mobo is completely new, but I will give a try to this.

                        My wires are connected as yours, I was asking about the laptop psu wires that I have to connect (positive is yellow, negative is black?)

                        I can get the pc out of the car, but is difficult and I would have prefer to don't do it again.

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                        • #13
                          Software issue ? Unresponding services, faulty drivers....


                          With 1GB my setup hibernates in less than 10 seconds (not the same mobo)
                          Now Galileo is real. Muhahahahaha :p

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DeltaFX View Post
                            Software issue ? Unresponding services, faulty drivers....


                            With 1GB my setup hibernates in less than 10 seconds (not the same mobo)
                            I have reinstalled xp, so I don't think so...

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                            • #15
                              Are you using windows default graphics drivers? If not you should try that and see if that changes things. I know when i used windows default vga drivers i booted a lot faster and hibernated a lot faster too.
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