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    I've spent the past few weeks searching through this site trying to make sense of it all. I know enough about computers to be able to assemble one but not enough about power to understand a lot of this.

    Basicaly it seems like there are 3 criteria to choosing a system: Power, cost, and space.

    I only want to do this once and I want it to be capable of doing anything: OBD-II, DVDs, mp3s, mpgs, emulators. So price is no issue.

    I've been doing fiberglass for a while now and am confident I can work with any space. So lets assume space is no issue.

    I've got an optima redtop and am looking into upgrading to a higher output alternator. Although I'm not sure how yet... I'm running a pretty powerful audio system already with a 5 farad cap, 2 7" monitors, 1 10.4" (to be used for the computer), a gamecube, and a few little things here and there, so I don't want this computer to put me over the top on power consumption.

    Basically my minimum requirements are as follows:

    - at least 250 gig harddrive at 7200 rpm
    - at least p4 3.0 gHz
    - at least 4 USB ports
    - at least 1 firewire 800 port
    - at least 16x dvd
    - 2 slots that support up to 2.0 gb RAM
    - good sound (in the form of a video card or onboard, whichever)
    - good video (in the form of a video card or onboard, whichever)
    - I don't care if it comes on when my car does. I can boot it up mid drive and shut it down before I turn the car off. No biggie.


    Anyone want to help me out fullfilling this? It could mean getting your name in a mag.

  • #2
    Do your research. If you can build a PC, the topics you need are power and OBD-II.

    DC to DC power, Get an OPUS as for OBD-II do more reading.
    TruckinMP3
    D201GLY2, DC-DC power, 3.5 inch SATA

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    • #3
      Originally posted by dark_muppet
      I've spent the past few weeks searching through this site trying to make sense of it all. I know enough about computers to be able to assemble one but not enough about power to understand a lot of this.

      Basicaly it seems like there are 3 criteria to choosing a system: Power, cost, and space.

      I only want to do this once and I want it to be capable of doing anything: OBD-II, DVDs, mp3s, mpgs, emulators. So price is no issue.

      I've been doing fiberglass for a while now and am confident I can work with any space. So lets assume space is no issue.

      I've got an optima redtop and am looking into upgrading to a higher output alternator. Although I'm not sure how yet... I'm running a pretty powerful audio system already with a 5 farad cap, 2 7" monitors, 1 10.4" (to be used for the computer), a gamecube, and a few little things here and there, so I don't want this computer to put me over the top on power consumption.

      Basically my minimum requirements are as follows:

      - at least 250 gig harddrive at 7200 rpm
      - at least p4 3.0 gHz
      - at least 4 USB ports
      - at least 1 firewire 800 port
      - at least 16x dvd
      - 2 slots that support up to 2.0 gb RAM
      - good sound (in the form of a video card or onboard, whichever)
      - good video (in the form of a video card or onboard, whichever)
      - I don't care if it comes on when my car does. I can boot it up mid drive and shut it down before I turn the car off. No biggie.


      Anyone want to help me out fullfilling this? It could mean getting your name in a mag.
      I am sorry, but a p4 3 gHz is a little overkill, especially if you are looking to cut down on power consumption, many if not most people here run 1ghz or less and have no problems. If you want small, and low power consumption, look into the VIA Epia M10000 boards,,
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      • #4
        You can have it cheap, you can have it fast, or you can have it small. Pick any two. Looks like you tossed out "cheap" so you should be good to go.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TruckinMP3
          Do your research. If you can build a PC, the topics you need are power and OBD-II.

          DC to DC power, Get an OPUS as for OBD-II do more reading.
          The setup he wants will probably be too much for the Opus. Expecially if he wants HT which draws more power, I'm going with a 3.0+ HT myself.

          Originally posted by MeanGT
          I am sorry, but a p4 3 gHz is a little overkill, especially if you are looking to cut down on power consumption, many if not most people here run 1ghz or less and have no problems. If you want small, and low power consumption, look into the VIA Epia M10000 boards,,
          Looks like he wants a top of the line system. I know I don't want anything less than a P4 2.4 HT. Once my setup is done i'm going to be controlling 3-4 different monitors, all showing different things, via two dual head video cards. I guess it really depends on what he wants do do with the PC.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SavageKabbage
            The setup he wants will probably be too much for the Opus. Expecially if he wants HT which draws more power, I'm going with a 3.0+ HT myself.
            Sure, he is still in the do more reading situation...
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            • #7
              More guidance:

              Yes. The goal of this system is to have a top of the line computer able to ultimately do anything. I want to be able to keep this in there for as long as I own the car without having to worry about upgrades or speed. There will be some games that could be played on it so speed is an issue. All will go to just one monitor though.

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              • #8
                woah

                Dang...you must do alot of parking to make all that Car PC worth while
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stimps
                  Dang...you must do alot of parking to make all that Car PC worth while
                  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that parking = shows.

                  *edit: wow, I must be postwhorin' it up today...i didn't know this board had flood control! Hah! "the administrator has specified that you can only be helpful once every 60 seconds *
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                  Hardware: EPIA M10000, 512Meg Ram, 5.6"TFT, Opus 150watt DC-DC PSU
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                  • #10
                    i run a 3.2 Gig HT P4 with a shuttle 65G2 black case - ill cover my build in alcantara this week, and hopefully post some photos.

                    i use an OPUS PSU. you want one.

                    you may have issues with power, as youre going to be running more ram, more USB devices etc etc..... mine works fine, and i calculate that i use around 150W of the 150W PSU - you may just have to buy it and prey.

                    basically, all im saying is it should be quite possilble. Th ePC will only drain about 15A max. your screens will be drawing 2-3 amps MAX - realistically the PC screens etc... dont consume much power.

                    its the amps driving the audio in a large system that zap the ccurrent.

                    HTH

                    Stu

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                    • #11
                      Why would you need a P4 3.0HT? You plan on playing UT2k4 on a 7' LCD? While my VIA was out of the car it ran games that are only a year or so old without a problem. I think it's overkill. You won't be able to justify the extra expense with the ammount of gaming you will do. But hey, it's your money not mine.
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                      • #12
                        more processor power = power 12v to DC power, no opus power supply is going to be able to run a P4 and a Radeon or Gforce + 3.5 hard drive and 3.5 CD/DVD drive, looks time to read up and re-think your setup.

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                        • #13
                          Man.... your insane. You dont need a P4 3GHz unless you plan on playing some games on that thing. Its a waste of good money. Also unless you have one big dash youre going to have a rough time fitting a mobo behind the LCD. An Opus 150w will be border line running that. I would not reccomend it.
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                          • #14
                            I think you guys are not understanding the full effects of testosterone. I'm putting a 2 GHZ AMD processor in my car.
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                            • #15
                              If you really want to power all of that stuff, you could use two OPUS 150w power supplies. One for the motherboard, the other for the video card, hard drive, etc. Money doesn't seem to be an object for you. Do you have space to install two of them?
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