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  • Software Review: Streeets and Trips 2006

    Ok yesterday I decided to go head up to Cape Flattery just outside Neah Bay, WA. I live in the Seattle area, so it was about a 400 mile round trip. This is the first trip I've taken with the new Streets and trips (seeing as it JUST came out) I'm using Road Runner as my front end and a custom skin (NOT the one I've added as an attachment) based on the Brushed Metal skin.

    Pros:
    - Night mode is cool. It really makes things easier to see and read (additional note in Cons section)
    - Interface with Road Runner is a lot better. With the old streets and trips, you couldn't load a saved route because the Window Class was always different, and a saved document had a different window title than a new window. The new S&T keeps the window title the same no matter what. (Window class still changes though :-( )
    - Guidance window is cool. It gives you directional arrows for your next turn, text telling you exactly what to do, a progress bar telling you have far along you are on that particular segment of road, and a mileage gage to tell you how far until the next turn. (There’s a minus about this window)
    - Voice directions are nice if you have the right voice running on the system. Big plus, is there's a NICE BIG BUTTON to TURN IT OFF and another big button to have it repeat what it last said. :-) (Read why you might want to do this below)
    - Routing got better. You can set up a route and the system knows where you are. In the old streets and trips, you just had a static route and you had to follow it on your own.
    - Reroute in the middle of a route. Because it now knows where you are in a particular segment of a route, it now allows you to adjust your route mid-route. Meaning, if you are in-between waypoint 10 and 11 and get off course for some reason or another, you can hit the reroute button and it will just reroute you to your next waypoint.
    - GPS settings are saved. With S&T 2005, you had to click a button to turn on GPS, then click another button to have it center you, and then click a third button to set it to rotate map as you drive. With 2006, however, all you have to do is turn on GPS and it remembers your other settings (Center map, rotate, Guidence mode)

    Cons:
    - Night mode.... the side streets are a bit too dark. Main streets and your intended route is fine, but the small side streets are so dark they can be hard to see
    - Guidance window. It takes up half the screen by default, and on an 800x600 screen, you can only shrink it to about a third of the screen.
    - Nav Voice. The nav voice is nice, but the tolerance for being on route and off route is too sensitive. These GPS maps are nice, but often times, they a little wrong. Around the Seattle area I didn't have this problem, but out past Port Angeles in the rural areas, I would commonly tell me I was off route only to have it tell me I was back on rote a few seconds later.
    - Nav voice is too detailed. It tells you every segment of the road. If I pass a fork in the road it will tell me about it, even if I'm coming from one of the forks (where is obvious what direction I have to go)
    - Same road in a different direction. Because I went to Cape Flattery and back, I took many of the same roads, just in a different direction. The system as a whole handled this VERY well; however, I did notice that when I was on my way back on these roads, it would often give me the voice information for both directions. Guidance knew which way I was going, but the *sometimes* the voice didn't. Very strange.
    - Nav voice uses wave output. I'm guessing that's just the way it has to be.... so I can't really knock it that hard, but I'm going to anyway. Probem is, you're driving along listening to music and the nav voice plays with the music... so you can't really here it. There is a repeat button... but... it would be nice if there was another cleaner option with this. Also, I really can't fault Streets and Trips for this because the the sound output isn't determined by S&T, but rather SAPI5... and on my computer, wave out is the only option. I'm still looking into options like a virtual Audio out channel for this, but as of yet, I haven't figured anything out.
    - Guidence mode comes on by default. This is kind of annoying because when you turn GPS on in Guidence mode, you get one of those warning messages like you get in factory nav systems. it's got nice big buttons to click OK past it but then the guidence window opens by default. I don't have a custom button created in my skin to toggle this window yet, but it is on my list of things to do before I post this skin because the X button for this window in the program is TINY!!



    All and all, for $40 (if you already have a GPS mouse) I think it's VERY worth it. The interface isn't the best, but it works for the most part. For those without wireless keyboards a little work needs to be done to get the OSK working... but other than that, I think we now have a great alternative to the more expensive nav programs. Sure, it's not as good as Map Monkey (at least from what I've seen as I've never used it) but it's only a fraction of the cost. IMHO, If Mappoint 2006 is released with all of these options, the only thing we will be missing is a 3D view.


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    so it can route?

    does it do active routing unlike 2005 ?

    as in can it be used for navigation in a car??? ulike the 2005 where it was like carrying mapquest in the car..


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    • #3
      Hey Matt, I read that S&T 2006 accepts voice input, did you use it? Do you have any comments about it?

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      • #4
        Have you tried iGuidance 2.1? How does it compare?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jay_tu
          does it do active routing unlike 2005 ?

          as in can it be used for navigation in a car??? ulike the 2005 where it was like carrying mapquest in the car..


          thanks
          Yes, I can be in the middle of a route, get off track, click the reroute button (created one in my RR skin) and it will adjust the current segment of my route. It actually does this quite well.
          Matt Atkins
          Seattle5s | President
          '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
          Factory nav.... for now

          Old Car (almost sold)
          '98 540i-6 blk/blk
          Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bkeitht
            Hey Matt, I read that S&T 2006 accepts voice input, did you use it? Do you have any comments about it?
            Hmm... I don't know anything about voice input, but it does now have voice directions. I'll take a look at it again to see if there's something about voice input and let you know.
            Matt Atkins
            Seattle5s | President
            '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
            Factory nav.... for now

            Old Car (almost sold)
            '98 540i-6 blk/blk
            Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wei2cool
              Have you tried iGuidance 2.1? How does it compare?
              No, but from what i've seen, MapMonkey and iGuidence are better in terms of functionality.... but, when you factor in the overall price... it's a different story.

              If somebody wants to send me a copy of iGuidence or Map Monkey I'd be more than willing to do a comparo :-D
              Matt Atkins
              Seattle5s | President
              '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
              Factory nav.... for now

              Old Car (almost sold)
              '98 540i-6 blk/blk
              Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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              • #8
                I like the new S&T and have found it the most user friendly/functional overall of the 6 or 7 GPS/mapping programs I've tried. I just wish there was an option to Mute other audio when the voice talks, otherwise when listening to MP3's or a CD you can't hear it.
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                • #9
                  could u check what streets in canada,quebec, montreal look like and take a picture please??

                  greatly appreciated thank you

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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      I have '06 and can complain about the same cons as above... One thing I like about this is the updating of construction information and it really seems to be one of the all around best programs for POI and whatnot. '06 has a pocketPC edition with it, maybe we can convince M$ to make a CarPC edition
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                      • #12
                        Good review. I recently purchased M$ Streets & Trips also and I agree with most of what you have to say. I think you forgot to mention one con though (or i missed it). If you decide to take an emergency pit stop (gas, etc.) the voice navigation annoyingly lets you know that your off route in like 60 second intervals.

                        Other than that though this software is awesome IMO if you have a nice sized screen to use it on. I used it on my laptop and it was still a little hard to see while driving.

                        About iGuidance as compared to S&T's, it really depends on what you want to use them for and your preferences. I prefer the simplicity, large graphics, and unclutterd gui of iGuidance in day to day activities. But in long haul trips Streets and trips wins hands down. The number of configurable options such as being able to enter gas mileage so that S&T automatically calculates gas stops and schedules them on the route is simply amazing for those summer trips. (Dont be like me "Its okay wife, we'll make it to the next exit, huhhh, whats that noise) . But the same thing that makes S&T's great for longer drives makes it unusable for me for trying to figure out where the nearest ABC Company is in my city. Streets & Trips is layed out similiar to their office products meaning theres many menus to go thru sometimes to find simple things.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wei2cool
                          Have you tried iGuidance 2.1? How does it compare?

                          personally I prefer S&T 2006 over iGuidance.

                          I felt that S&T gave me more control over the routes I wanted to take, while iGuidance seemed to not be able to comprehend what I was doing when I was taking a known shortcut...

                          for instance, if you have a square of roads:


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                          it would tell me to take a left, then a right then another right, instead of going straight....wtf?

                          S&T didn't have that problem for me.

                          I also thought that it was quicker to recalculate the routes as well when you go off route and change it a bit....I also prefer the trip planner in S&T, I have yet to find anything remotely like that in iGuidance, to the point where you can select the towns you want to travel through if you don't want to take major highways or byways for your trips.
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                          • #14
                            Two questions:
                            - Does S&T come with australian maps? (yes I have searched the net for this info, but cannot find it)
                            - Does S&T recognise one-way streets, so you're not sent down the wrong ways?

                            Thank You!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tourettes
                              - Does S&T recognise one-way streets, so you're not sent down the wrong ways?

                              Yes.
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