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    I tried frodoplayer and it is cool in the way it does alot of stuff, but centrafuse is still the best i feel with media manager...

    i posted this in the frodo forum, read it tell me what everyone thinks... if it could be doable that would be awesome!

    The VIEW BUTTON is a toggle switch between Album View and Track View
    The "A" next to genre and filter 2 is an "ALL" button so you can not filter by that attribute (ie. select hip hop as genre then hit filter 2's A button and get all hip hop, otherwise choose artist then drill it down). All genres then filter by album, then there would be no need for an "album view"

    the "FAVORITES" button is also a toggle button, that would filter out all songs that werent a favorite... so technically you could really drill it down, to say show only the tracks on an album by an artist taht are your favorite. Switch genre to hip hop, artist to jayz, switch to track view, and throw on favorites and you see all your favorite jayz songs.

    Reset will reset the filters to default (which could be customized?). LOAD ALL is a cool way to just automatically load every song into the queue quickly

    i would say probably that it would be better to separate the video and audio, if at least by a toggle switch.

    let me know how you feel about it, i'll also post it in centrafuse site to see if they could do it too if theres lots of opposition here
    Centrafuse is intuitive in that it does this practically already... i was just thinking this maybe a better more efficient way to organize this data. Frodo's advantage is the on screen filtering... i.e. the FILTER 2 box. You can see the artists as you drill down the list...

    basically what i'm looking for is either one of the vendors to combine the ideas and make it real strong, i figure its easier for centrafuse because its practically there?
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    alternative views of the album view to tile mode like the current view except no titles underneath to make it look sharper?
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    • #3
      forgot most important thing!!!

      a button for text filtering!!! i hate that i have to go thru a-w to get to Xecutioners when doing artist view even within genre of hip hop...

      give me a button that once hit a keyboard pops up and i can type in 1 letter to hop/filter to that, then clear it when i dont need it!
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      • #4
        after an album is selected, or if you chose to filter by albums, the "track view" would be just a listing of tracks like it is now
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        • #5
          no one?
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          • #6
            those are some good ideas... it's a little too complicated for use in the car while driving IMOP... I don't believe you should give this many options to a driver, it's just not safe... Also the layout you show will not fit well on a 7" screen... I original designed something similiar, prior to 1.2, and you only get a couple of options per list view, not efficient enough... also to fit all the other buttons they have to be way to small...

            some of the ideas are good... I have always had the plan to add some filtering to my listviews... I also plan to spend some time improving the media manager....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by veetid
              those are some good ideas... it's a little too complicated for use in the car while driving IMOP... I don't believe you should give this many options to a driver, it's just not safe... Also the layout you show will not fit well on a 7" screen... I original designed something similiar, prior to 1.2, and you only get a couple of options per list view, not efficient enough... also to fit all the other buttons they have to be way to small...

              some of the ideas are good... I have always had the plan to add some filtering to my listviews... I also plan to spend some time improving the media manager....

              david

              Soo many options ??? I think this can be the least i need to have to organise my 275Gb of music in my car. And i also think this will be the least you need to offer to people with 10Gb of MP3. Because 10Gb can be a lot of mp3

              Just my 2cents

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              • #8
                i agree with m-ruiter

                its probably better to have more filters/functionality because the current method is the one thats not great for driving. like i said in the post, i have to scroll thru everything to get to the last stuff inthe alphabet. Filters would help!

                as m-ruiter said, you have lots of files to sort through. And, i use media manager mostly when i'm not driving, setting up the queue.

                seriously... check out the screen shot from the frodoplayer playlist creator.

                all the buttons i suggested are already there, already being done on frodos current playlist manager. this fits easy on the screen.

                i understand you might want an overlay, but you know what its no big deal to do a full screen thing.

                you realized how much scrollbars suck tho on touch screen and put those big buttons in, thanks alot!. now that i think of it, your scoll buttons could have a single arrow > for next screen or a double arrow >> for more than 1 screen maybe?

                it definitely can happen without a snag i feel. better use of the real estate and more efficient browsing.

                I just feel as though the suggestions i made are the way i would naturally want to browse for music.

                dunno, toss the ideas around abit - see what the users want!
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                • #9
                  and just to throw it out there - the big buttons and current design is honestly a little confusing. you have to get used to the logic first, so theres a learning curve.

                  the changes made to the media manager from last time negatively effected its efficiency... i.e. does "load" load the queue or the current album? do i save the playlist in the queue while playing or while designing? if i want to just add songs do i have to navigate to the queue then hit load?

                  also, i feel theres alot of unused space - skins could help that of course

                  i dont want you to feel like i'm bashing you, you have the best ideas so far for a media manager, i'm just throwing my 2 cents in to try to improve it! i wanna see it succeed!
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                  • #10
                    having some empty space is a good thing and a must... if you study interface design you should never fill up every single piece of empty space with something... you have to have some negative space for things to breathe...

                    like I said... I plan to improve on the media manager, but I don't believe I will go to a double list view design...

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                    • #11
                      whatever then just make it more concise than now... it really doesnt make any sense
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nsmoller
                        whatever then just make it more concise than now... it really doesnt make any sense
                        dont' get upset... I said your ideas were good... I am just not currently focused on the media manager right now, but I know it needs some improvement... I have to get a few other things done first, like integrated GPS...

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                        • #13
                          Just my opinion..but I would have thought it to be better to sort out the media manager first? as this is a function that everyone uses, and probably uses 80-90% of the time while in the car. This would make it the most used function of the front end, and even slight bugs, and lack of 'the little features' such as filters (and proper shuffle!) could let down centrafuse as a front-end in some peoples eyes.

                          In my opinion the rest of the future features take second place to the media manager as users will happily embed other GPS programs for now. People would want to be able to play music easily and effectively in their cars, the rest should wait

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                          • #14
                            thats 2 ppl that are saying it dave !

                            how does coldfusion feel about my suggestions?

                            i dunno dave... i have a software company too. if we werent busy doing this healthcare ****, i'd do one of these front ends...

                            the 3 list view thing on one window seems to work well logistically

                            i got lots of ideas - i'll give em to you, take or leave them!

                            playlist jumping:
                            so i have this huge ****in playlist or i'm shuffling all music and oh snap son its jigga my nigga. i love jayz but not this song. So i touch the area on top that has jiggas name on it. open pops a mini media manager with jayz's albums (which can be switched to track view for those who like that). at this point i can add these to the current playlist, or "jump" all or selected albums and songs into another temporary playlist. this playlist functions as any other, but you cant jump further from here. once ur done, you can hit the jump back button, and go back to ur playlist at the same point you were.

                            damn its that new lifehouse album, i want to listen to the whole thing! click on album art (which should be next to the album info on the top) and a mini media manager opens with the tracks for that album. add to current or jump!

                            ever hear of the phatbox? pretty cool stuff: check out what it can do:
                            http://www.phatnoise.com/products/di...ion=sectiontwo

                            dave- put the gps away. get centrafuse to be the best at handling music, what we ALL use it for. Get a strong directory browsing mode for people who like that (cause ur losing users to nmc, frodo, and rr). Take up my ideas for music management. Make an option to use either or, because ppl that are directory based fans rarely use media managers (because of their lack of organization ). make centrafuse the ****.

                            **** just make it so all these features can be on any screen and ppl will skin the program the way they want it.
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                            • #15
                              The media manager changes are nothing from a programming standpoint... It's the design.... My partner is working on the new and final design, which is where the media manager updates will be made... I will have all these other plugins long done before the design is finished, which will take some time... so things like GPS will come first... sorry...

                              note: and GPS is almost just as important as music... GPS is the only reason lots of people put computers in their car....

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