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    Is there any working solution for TV in Ride Runner?

    WinAmp's TV plugin is old, unsupported and I can't find any channel lists anywhere.

    There is lots of DVB softwares out there like ProgDVB, DVB Viewer etc. but no plugins for those!
    If someone is interest to start developing one, raise your hand. Or if someone know other ways to run TV in RR please tell how you do it.

    There is five players for music, five for videos and eleven radio receivers supported in RR!
    Where is support for TV!

  • #2
    It's not a matter of software.
    It's a matter of having a PC-based radio tuner that will get good reception while on the move. Until there is such a device that meets a price point that is reasonable for vehicle PC enthusiasts, there will be minimal interest.

    Couple that with the progression towards digital TV, and you're going to have a hard time cobbling something together.

    Maybe you'll get lucky and find someone who shares your enthusiasm for TV in the vehicle and can get a plugin together.

    Good luck.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    • #3
      Yes that's understandable but how many of supported usb radio receivers give good reception straight from box? If usb tv receivers is not good enough, is there way to modified other tv receivers to work with pc, like Alpine Kenwood etc.. same way as HD radios works?

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      • #4
        digital ota tv like we have now is impossible to hold reception while on the move.. at least as far as i can tell. no worries though, all tv is or will be online soon. im much more interested in getting a dedicated internet connection for my truck.

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        • #5
          after years of trying to get good tv signal in vehicle. i have found the slingbox is the only solution to give true digital picture quality in carputing. i get all my cable suppliers built-in programming guide on my screen. Well here in canada anyways. You need a internet in car to make it all happen but i am sure you will be pleased with the results. and i believe there is a RR plugin (i use CF) hope this helps SNO

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          • #6
            I have to agree that Slingbox is one of the best options (some people use Orb) to use for TV in the car. I have a SlingPlayer plugin that works in RR....

            Link: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/rr-r...er-plugin.html

            Of course, you need a dedicated internet connection in the car. I use a Verizon aircard and have good coverage and decent speed (have FIOS at home for good upload speed -25MB). To get better coverage and speed, I use an antenna that I connected to my card and it helps to keep the signal strong.

            I hope this helps...
            Gee

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            • #7
              There's a Cinergy Diversity Tuner which works up to about 60-90Km/h, there's also a WinTV Diversity tuner that does the same, however the software isn't as good. I don't know how pricey they are now, but other than that, you'd have to deal with the WinampTV plugin or use Internet TV like suggested above (or just try embedding some other application from another manufacturer).
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              • #8
                OK dartman..
                good news
                after a lot of work...and many days, i finally got to write a .tpl file correctly..the format is the following.

                Code:
                DVB ATHENS
                690,H,8
                682,H,8
                674,H,8
                The frequencies are in Mhz and not in Khz....
                so for example here in athens Greece we have 3 transponders one on 690000 khz, another on 682000 khz and another on 674000 Khz

                so the first field is the frequency (in MHz) the second field is polarity..(that is used for DVB-S satellite - it should not be used for DVB-T) so use H. the 3d field is the bandwidth..

                make a txt file write the transponders and rename to tpl..
                I got the winamp plugin to work with the terratec cinergy Tstick BUT the plugin can only show MPEG2 channels..it will not show MPEG4 (h264) channels.. i tried everything..

                so i ditched the winamp plugin and went directly to VLC.. VLC is capable of showing DVB-T, DVB-C and DVB-S channels..and actually plays everything, you can create playlists of the scanned channels.. you can get it embeded in RR and sendkeys to it..it is very easy.. i got it working good aswell


                i also tried DVBviewer which also works nicely and plays everything you can create playlists of the scanned channels here aswell..this is my prefered software..it is more flexible than the above 2...i got it embeded and i am sending keys to change channels and it works quiet nicely..

                So i believe development should be in creating a VLC plugin.. the RR team has allready made a video plugin for VLC, so making that to work outside "video.skin" and be able to play vlc playlists is not that hard i believe..but it is waaay over my head..
                Lambospirit has a plugin for VLC (which he wrote before native VLC rr support) but i asked him if he can refresh it to make it work with latest VLC..we will see



                1 more thing i was driving with my car on 100km/hr and was having 90% signal with the cinergy stick and DVBviewer and the supplied antenna yesterday..(the antenna is a magnet small one and was outside of the car) at least in open areas, when i was between buildings the signal was lost

                good luck and tell me if u need any help

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                • #9
                  Thank's Nomader! I was fighting hours with ProgDVB but I didn't find window name. Then I moved to DVB Viewer which embed fine and sendkeys work fine too, now I need to think about skin.
                  I also try Winamp TV plugin but it didn't work with my Anysee receiver which I have used for testing. Now when I saw the light in the tunnel, I ventured to order Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-TD diversity receiver. Let see how good it is, I don't expect that it would work in 250km/h speed but in morning traffic it would be nice to watch news or something.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dartman_71 View Post
                    Thank's Nomader! I was fighting hours with ProgDVB but I didn't find window name. Then I moved to DVB Viewer which embed fine and sendkeys work fine too, now I need to think about skin.
                    I also try Winamp TV plugin but it didn't work with my Anysee receiver which I have used for testing. Now when I saw the light in the tunnel, I ventured to order Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-TD diversity receiver. Let see how good it is, I don't expect that it would work in 250km/h speed but in morning traffic it would be nice to watch news or something.
                    the problem with diversity is that it only works with the factory software.. that is why i did not waste money on diversity for the moment

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nomader View Post
                      the problem with diversity is that it only works with the factory software.. that is why i did not waste money on diversity for the moment
                      You almost scared me, but fortunately, you were mistaken. I went to pick up the Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-TD and I tested with both DVB Viewer v4.3.1.150 beta and ProgDVB v6.43.02. When I unplug one of the antennas, signal level drops from 90% to 60%, I tried the same on both antennas. So if it doesn't use both tuners, then at least two antennas improve reception, compared to my Anysee receiver which doesn't get even 50% signal. Well let see when I get this in a car, then I see was it a waste of money.

                      Edit: Hauppauge doesn't work with Winamp's TV plugin either, plugin only gives error when I select device from the list.

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                      • #12
                        I use SageTV Placeshifter in my vehicle. It's an extension of my home DVR system, so I don't have to worry about TV reception on the move (just EVDO reception). Quality isn't great, but it's good enough for the kids viewing their pacifying cartoons...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dartman_71 View Post
                          You almost scared me, but fortunately, you were mistaken. I went to pick up the Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-TD and I tested with both DVB Viewer v4.3.1.150 beta and ProgDVB v6.43.02. When I unplug one of the antennas, signal level drops from 90% to 60%, I tried the same on both antennas. So if it doesn't use both tuners, then at least two antennas improve reception, compared to my Anysee receiver which doesn't get even 50% signal. Well let see when I get this in a car, then I see was it a waste of money.

                          Edit: Hauppauge doesn't work with Winamp's TV plugin either, plugin only gives error when I select device from the list.
                          you should press ADVANCED under the device in the plugin setting.. play with the video and audio codec and play with checking/unchecking "bypass Microsoft network provider"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nomader View Post
                            you should press ADVANCED under the device in the plugin setting.. play with the video and audio codec and play with checking/unchecking "bypass Microsoft network provider"
                            If you ment advanced in this window, it's grayed out. Plugin version is 1.9beta13
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                            • #15
                              i believe the plugin senses whether you have an analog TV or a DVB tv card and changes the menu in "video" and "channels" accordingly..
                              your menu is for analog tv..strange!! i get the same menu when i use my old analog TV cinergy 600..
                              this is what i get now with version beta12 and beta14 :

                              try not to use "overlay"
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