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    I am having tons of problems with the various video player options. Using Feb 2011 build with eLite Lite 1.66 skin. Win7 x64, 4gb ram.

    "Built In" worked best, but at some point after an update, the Auto-Hide function in Video did a neat trick where the interface would slide down to disappear instead of just blink off. Unfortunately this now introduces huge tearing issues where I see the top bar all the way down and pieces of video all over.

    Windows Media Player doesn't support ZOOM functionality, which renders all small videos useless.

    Media Player Classic won't show the time playing on the track or length of the video. It also leaves the mouse visible on the top left of the screen.

    VLC crashes RR completely.

    MS Directshow Player shifts the entire video up, pushing it off the screen and leaving a blank bar on the bottom. It also will not regain focus if i go into playlist/library and hit Back - it leaves the non-functional playlist on display instead.

    I would prefer to use Built In but I don't know how to disable the sliding trick. I've already turned off the menu sliding UI, but it didn't affect video auto-hide. Where do I go to do this?

    FWIW, Winamp visualizations quit working too. All of these seem to be video related but I don't know the common thread ..
    Last edited by ninja6o4; 02-22-2011, 01:30 AM.

  • #2
    man you got issues...

    well in my win7 x64 set up im using VideoLan V1.1.5 and videos
    playback perfectly... mouse hides... UI auto hides...
    no issues...
    now V1.1.7, does crash once in a while...


    now for the auto hide... right now its a bit hard coded....
    but i never seen any tearing on my system...
    so 1st thought it VIDEO DRIVERS, i assume your not using the microsoft drivers, but the manufactures drivers
    so check that out...
    -Thanks
    Mitch
    www.rush2112.net

    "Did you test it in carwings??"

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply. In my next update I will take some pics to demonstrate what it's doing.

      I'll try a video driver update (I am using nvidia drivers, not MS, as you correctly predicted), but the problem started after an RR update. Generally, nothing changes in the PC, only the RR build. Each time an RR update breaks something, then I try to fix by updating everything else, MS patches, Flash update, .NET, modify the skin code, etc. until it's mostly right again.

      Auto-Hide - I can see from a development perspective that it's separate from the normal window transition options, but it would be nice to have an option to disable "Smooth Auto-Hide" or something similar.

      I recently tried VLC (since trying to fix this problem) so I am running the newest version, if that's 1.1.7 or whatever. At this point I'd rather focus on trying to get built in working like it used to.

      Out of curiousity - why do you use VLC rather than the built in?

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      • #4
        actually, i do use builtin, but since im developing RR, i switch often...
        v1.1.5, works fine...
        v1.1.7 does crash... dont know why yet...

        but im now on built-in...
        i also use msvideo...

        did you read your PM

        there is a new skin option

        /EFFECTVIDEOHIDE=

        which lets you change how the video controls hide

        ---------- Post added at 03:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ----------

        one thing you must know video is soooo dependent on 3rd party, and its stablity and performace is up to the player you choose
        and your codecs... and that can get a mess... generally i have nothing installed but ffdshow and i see to have no isssues

        ---------- Post added at 03:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:46 PM ----------

        ther has been NO change to video in a long long time... read history.txt... i have found when someone says, all i did was update RR, in most cases there was other changes to their system
        a new winamp, installed some directshow filters...something....
        -Thanks
        Mitch
        www.rush2112.net

        "Did you test it in carwings??"

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        May healing waters bury all my pain
        Wind, Carry me home
        The fabric of reality is tearing apart
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        • #5
          Got the PM, thanks. Will let you know how it works tonight or the next day.

          For codecs I know what you mean - the less codecs you have installed, the better. I have an HTPC for in home, and my regular PC has digital output to AV Receiver via Optical, so I am no stranger to weird codec and output issues. It takes hours to configure but once it's running, it's great. I am running FFDshow but not sure if anything else. I'll check and report back.

          Worst case, I'll also give VLC 1.1.5 a shot to see if it's any better.

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          • #6
            funny... i did a complete uninstall of 1.1.7, then reinstall and now it hasnt crashed since...
            -Thanks
            Mitch
            www.rush2112.net

            "Did you test it in carwings??"

            Sun, Come shine my way
            May healing waters bury all my pain
            Wind, Carry me home
            The fabric of reality is tearing apart
            The piece of me that died
            Will return To live again

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            • #7
              OK.. spent some quality time with the carpc this afternoon. My setup used to have AC3filter, Haali splitter, and FFDshow from march 2010 (when I first built it.)

              Updated to your test build. Using value 0 for the fade effect, works flawlessly! No more tearing.

              However, been using MPC for so long I didn't realize that the built-in player wasn't using DXVA to decode like MPC was for my 1080p movies. Did some more testing..
              - reinstalling vlc 1.1.7 twice, no change, still crashes.
              - In MPC (I am using MPC-HC, latest x64 build), CPU usage is around 11% playing 1080p mkv. In all others, it's between 50-90% usage.
              - Removed all my codecs and installed the Shark codecs for Win7 (http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html) to try and get DXVA working for built-in player.
              - Fiddled with MPC-HC codec, FFDshow dxva codec. nothing seems to activate DXVA for built in. I got various video playback results, but none ever got me DXVA. I know it's using the codecs, because I turned on Subs under FFD dxva and the subs were played, but still high cpu.
              - When MPC-HC codec was selected, high cpu and bad aspect ratio (wouldn't resize automatically). Video/audio wouldn't sync up and got poor frame rate, blockiness, etc.
              - When FFDShow was selected, high cpu, good aspect ratio detection. Video/audio sync is fine, but I am losing frames. No blockiness though.

              I wouldn't mind using MPC in RR, but again, downside being the mouse cursor in top left and no display of time or progress bar of the video. Any thoughts?

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              • #8
                I should try the new MPC, then id have some thoughts
                i use MPC HomeTheater and nothing from FFDSHOW (i think)
                since it has all the codecs i need built in, i use the x86 version, even though im on x64, it seems to work



                ill see about mouse,

                not sure what you mean about time progress bar, if you mean seek bar, we hide that on purpose
                not good to use anyway while in car
                is that what u mean?

                ---------- Post added at 01:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 AM ----------

                I found an interesting solution!!!
                Last edited by mitchjs; 02-27-2011, 01:51 AM.
                -Thanks
                Mitch
                www.rush2112.net

                "Did you test it in carwings??"

                Sun, Come shine my way
                May healing waters bury all my pain
                Wind, Carry me home
                The fabric of reality is tearing apart
                The piece of me that died
                Will return To live again

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                • #9
                  the progress bar i'm talking about the blue bar (in elite skin) that shows the total length of the video, then has the bar that slowly moves forward, and that you can click on to forward/rewind the video. This bar works in built in and MS directshow, but not MPC - just shows 0:00 and the bar can't be clicked on - so video playlists do not work (never knows when to start next video). If this doesn't make sense let me know, i'll take a screenshot for you to explain it better.

                  I'll give the new build a try for MPC. Just wondering, is DXVA supported in built in player at all? I still prefer built in, because it is much smarter about how to interact with RR and skins in general, but I'll use MPC if i can get everything working in that.
                  Last edited by ninja6o4; 02-27-2011, 03:31 AM.

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                  • #10
                    yes new mpc-hc is DXVA

                    built in is using 10 year old MCI media calls... you would get limited or no control of how the video filters work... but it does work
                    for most videos, as long as your machine isnt a mess of codecs!

                    i use carwing_dynamic as reference, the blue bar dont mean much to me
                    but you are possibly talking about the seek bar
                    -Thanks
                    Mitch
                    www.rush2112.net

                    "Did you test it in carwings??"

                    Sun, Come shine my way
                    May healing waters bury all my pain
                    Wind, Carry me home
                    The fabric of reality is tearing apart
                    The piece of me that died
                    Will return To live again

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                    • #11
                      It is a seek bar. Here it is:


                      As you can see, during the video it shows length of 0:00 and the bar is not moving. Normally I can click it and it will skip to that time in the video.

                      I did some more testing today with your new build and had some interesting results:
                      • Mouse icon now hides (yay!)
                      • I tried the old mplayerc.exe that was in the RR install folder, and the seek bar above actually does work (!), but it's so old there is no DXVA support, and the Shark codecs didn't want to work.
                      • Copied mpc-hc64.exe to RR folder as you did, and copied the old mplayerc.ini to the mpc-hc64.ini. That didn't get the seek bar working either.
                      • For some reason, now when you touch the screen is pauses the video. I tried to fix this by modifying MPC-HC keys and removed "Left Down" on mouse from Play/Pause. However, when I did this, now the actual Play/Pause button in RR doesn't work anymore - I can't pause the video at all! I changed it back but it still doesn't work. I erased the .ini file and started over, still same result
                      • Randomly, I am not able to change the video. So I have Video 1 playing. When I choose Video 2 from playlist, the RR interface indicates that I am viewing the Video 2, but Video 1 is still playing. If I back out to main screen and then back into video, Video 2 then starts playing.
                      • RR Zoom doesn't always detect the right aspect ratio for various videos (not necessarily RR's fault - some videos are just encoded poorly)
                      • Disabling RR Zoom and playing with MPC output settings makes it completely manual each time. The only way to fix this is put a check box in "Launch files in fullscreen" and have files Auto Fit. Then videos are correct and full screen every single time. However, when I do this, the mouse icon still will not go away.
                      • I'm going to continue with RR zoom to avoid the mouse problem and deal with individual videos that are problematic.

                      So, this is where the configuration sits:
                      • Using MPC HC, Zoom enabled. This will work for 95% of my videos. DXVA works in this mode.
                      • Seek bar is still non-functional in MPC HC, and now I've seemed to have broken the Play/Pause button in RR Video. MPC indicates that it responds to this on VK_SPACE and App Command "MEDIA_PLAY_PAUSE", and I've tested that this works (outside of RR)
                      • Sometimes I cannot change video as described above.
                      • Sometimes MPC crashes RR completely when changing videos.

                      One last thing: Where do I edit the different Zoom modes RR chooses from? I checked the video_player.skin and a couple other files but couldn't find it. It lets me choose from Full, Cut, -2.35, +2.35, -4:3, +4:3 etc. I can make it work with just 2 or 3 modes, so I'd like to delete the ones I won't be using.

                      Thanks for all your help!
                      Jason

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                      • #12
                        YOU Are trying to out think me, and since we control some of the mpc settings, you have to work with me...
                        i dont think you can cange the zoom modes
                        personally, i always want it in correct aspect.. i cant stand out of aspect videos
                        if you set it to launch in full screen, rr will tell it not to be in full screen, because there is a limitation
                        with the commands to mpc, need a real full screen command, not a toggle!
                        so the mouse wont hide, again, its MPCs policy not to hide the mouse in windowed mode

                        if you remove the key or the mouse click that pauses the video, it shouldnt effect how we pause the video

                        i think u should run mpc-hc outside of RR (but the one from the rr dir(which is the one rr should be set to use), configure it how you want it
                        then WORK with me.. at this point i have no plans to change
                        we dont use Virtual keys, we use the app commands...

                        i still have NO idea what the seek bar is, to me there is a seek bar in MPC-HC and i HIDE that, i can tell you how to keep it visable
                        but again, you keep going on your own...
                        if you are talking about a seek bar on the skin, thats totally differen, that image you post i cant see anything of use
                        to tell me what you want
                        -Thanks
                        Mitch
                        www.rush2112.net

                        "Did you test it in carwings??"

                        Sun, Come shine my way
                        May healing waters bury all my pain
                        Wind, Carry me home
                        The fabric of reality is tearing apart
                        The piece of me that died
                        Will return To live again

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                        • #13
                          Heh! Sorry, not trying to out-think you. Just trying to get as much troubleshooting help for you as possible.

                          Here is the seek bar working (switched to Built In quickly to take a pic). I can click anywhere on the blue/black bar and it will seek to that time in the video.


                          It shows with the rest of the UI when you click or move the mouse (otherwise it auto-hides with rest of the buttons)

                          I'm not sure why the pause quit working even after erasing the .ini and letting RR re-write it. Maybe I'll try re-installing MPC and RR to see if that resets.

                          Since the seek bar works with an old version of MPC or builtin/MS directshow, it might just be an .ini or skin issue? Not sure ..

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                          • #14
                            ok, that seek bar looks part of the SKIN...
                            ok, i found one that has in Elite Wings

                            OK MAJOR VIOLATION

                            it seems this skin is touching a RR internal variable...and I BET yours is too

                            i will take it up with the creator, but one of my fears now has come true

                            can you look in skin.ini
                            do u see

                            videoplayer=video


                            ---------- Post added at 11:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:03 PM ----------

                            i also found the issue with the "VIDEOPOS" slider, working on it!
                            it seems the format is differnt in the string from MPC-HC vs the old one
                            -Thanks
                            Mitch
                            www.rush2112.net

                            "Did you test it in carwings??"

                            Sun, Come shine my way
                            May healing waters bury all my pain
                            Wind, Carry me home
                            The fabric of reality is tearing apart
                            The piece of me that died
                            Will return To live again

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                            • #15
                              I will check it out tomorrow - I managed to break my CarPC LCD output (not RR issue) so now I have to fix it before I can even see my screen to tell you what is in the skin.ini.

                              As I understand, the eLite 1.6.6 skin is dead, he is working on 2.0 now and isn't updating 1.6.6 anymore.

                              Is the skin problem you found in eLite Wings or eLite Lite? I am using the skin from this thread: http://www.mp3car.com/rr-released-sk...e-1-6-6-a.html

                              I would like to use eLite Wings but no support for my 800x480 screen So I am waiting for eLite 2.0, which he promises to have 800x480 support.

                              Good news on the slider, hopefully it makes it into March 2011 release
                              Last edited by ninja6o4; 03-01-2011, 02:14 AM.

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