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    RR works with 3 different ART functions. the ALBUMART, the COVERART and the RADIOART.
    i learn, that its possible to show the pic of the albumfolder OR the pic out of the mp3 file.
    both are not possible. OR IS THERE A WAY TO SHOW BOTH ?
    sometimes i want to see the pic of the genrefolder i play and sometimes i want to see which artist are playing the song. in some screens i like to see both.

    another thing is how RR works with the RADIOART showing.
    it only shows the pic of the staton when the radio is on, or iam opend the radio_player.skin.
    what i liked is that it shows the radio station also when the TA function is activated.
    so i can make a phonecall and see also in a statusline which station brings me the news for riding.
    and wirh the pic i also can see that iam outside the region they bring the news for.

  • #2
    When you say show BOTH you mean at the same time ? It should just be a minor change in the mp3art plugin (so it doesn't use the same indicator code, or to add another one).
    For the RadioArt, if you're using just the frequency, you can add an indicator to the screen you want to display the art file desired -- i.e. Indicator code: "FILE;$RRPATH$RadioArt\$CURFREQ$.PNG" and then on the load of the screen or on a timer basis on that screen you'd execute "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY".
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    • #3
      Originally posted by guino View Post
      When you say show BOTH you mean at the same time ? It should just be a minor change in the mp3art plugin (so it doesn't use the same indicator code, or to add another one).
      For the RadioArt, if you're using just the frequency, you can add an indicator to the screen you want to display the art file desired -- i.e. Indicator code: "FILE;$RRPATH$RadioArt\$CURFREQ$.PNG" and then on the load of the screen or on a timer basis on that screen you'd execute "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY".
      hi guino,

      in part of MP3Art and ALBUMART i mean both.

      in part of the ART showing i didnīt understand the philosophie which is behind the way RR is working with.

      as newbie i look what name you the coder give the "L", or "I" command. in the beginning of RR all was written und the "J" command.
      some older skins use it and i think the PHONE skin too.

      normaly i know, Guino and Mitch called it ART, so i think the right name for the pic of my phonebook should be called PHONEART
      ALBUMART is the pic of the album, and MP3ART is the pic which is saved inside the MP3file.
      RADIOART is the pic of the radiostation.

      a PHONEART is not inside RR and if my USB radio is on, i get inside the ALBUMART and the RADIOART the same pic....the active radiostation.


      in part of RADIOART i will try your way. i tried it with the name of the station which is always true. but, my bad RDS radio gives me sometimes inside the station name the title of the song.

      regards


      in RR basic is the ALBUMART fixed and worked like i need.
      the MP3ART.dll is a plugin with the "fault" that the outputname is ALBUMART too. isnīt enough rename the outputflag of the .dll
      into MP3ART ? so, both ART can work at the same time.
      Attached Files
      Last edited by GF-ler; 08-31-2011, 03:02 PM. Reason: 2 pics as example

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      • #4
        The "J" definition really was just an old definition (heritage from Mediacar skins) that we had to support one way or another -- everything goes into an "I" definition internally.

        The idea on the existing mp3art plugin is that current skins (which only display "ALBUMART") would automatically display art inside mp3 files (without editing the skin). Furthermore, in case there was no art within the MP3, it still would display any available album art as if the plugin was not installed -- this is still good/valid.

        It appears that your want a different mp3art plugin (That would not override the existing ALBUMART) -- this should be easy to do. However it would be hard to modify the behavior of the existing plugin without affecting the existing users/skins. So the best suggestion would be to add two new codes: "MP3ART" (displaying whatever is inside the MP3) and "FOLDERART" (For any art files in the folder) -- those could be added directly to the mp3art plugin so that you (and anyone else that wishes to) can use it in new skins (separately or together as desired) while existing skins can continue with the existing behavior (for those that are used to it).

        Just let me know what you think..
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        • #5
          fyi mp3art is really a obsolete plugin

          i have long replaced it with mediaart plugin
          does more than mp3s
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          • #6
            and another thing the indicator "albumart" is context sensitive

            it becomes radio art when, radio is ACTIVESOURCE
            it becomes sirius art when, Sirius ACTIVESOURCE
            it becomes xm art when, XM Radio is ACTIVESOURCE
            even does DVD art when, DVD is ACTIVESOURCE

            the mp3art (obsolete) plugin, overrides funcationality of indicator when audio is ACTIVESOURCE
            and mp3art, attempts to PULL image from the actuall mp3 file, then falls back
            to old behavior of looking in the path to find an image

            course MediaArt has long replaced mp3art plugin
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            "Did you test it in carwings??"

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            • #7
              hi guino...hi mitch (in alphabetic order)

              dont lets talk about whats better or not.
              fact is, for the newer plugin MEDIART i need to install a .net application.
              iam very pessimistic about that, because every program wants his own version,
              and its no game to play every version on my pc.
              so i install the MP3ART of guino on my pc. BUT, īwhat i thought was that it get his own name, and not the ALBUMART.
              ALBUMART i need for the coverflow function of SAL.R. faster and better as every other program.

              so, what guino says he can change the OUTPUT name of his MP3ART .dll into FOLDERART...it would be perfect.

              also iam not happy that RADIOART and ALBUMART have the same pic inside if the radio is ON.
              by the way, which time is the radio ON. in my thinking its also ON if the TA function of the radion is active.
              at this moment the radio is in standby position and wait to change the volume to low and give the news of the streets.

              if RADIOART and ALBUMART are the same, i ask by myself....for what i need RADIOART.

              so, it would be nice if a ART function use a name for the function it works.
              PHONEART the pic of the number i selected
              RADIOART the pic of the selected radiostation
              FOLDERART the pic of the selected folder
              MP3ART the pic from the musictitle that played.
              if there is no pic inside..it gives a pic with the information NO PIC AVAILABLE. as now.

              hope we find a way to make RR simpler.

              thanks and regards

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              • #8
                i dont think we can make those changes directly, we might be able to add, 1st off radio and music(mp3s) technically arnt active at the same time
                so.. "albumart" will and needs to be context sensitive

                i think you are outside the box...
                while anything is possible in a plugin, you can override anything you want

                internally there is no such thing as "PHONEART"

                ALBUMART will remain the same...

                one could write a plugin, and produce "MP3ART" as the embedded art
                now i dont like the "MP3" cause embedded art isnt just mp3s

                you want it to work a specific way, my suggestion is write your own plugin, to provide what you need...
                ok, your gonna tell me you dont program...

                i cant tell you what the coverflow plugin does with "albumart" indicator

                the simplest thing i can do... is add to the mediaart plugin, an indicator "MEDIAART" and that would be basicaly the same as "ALBUMART"
                but ONLY embedded art, and not the fall back art

                as you can see this is complicated

                and every program doesnt want its OWN version of .net framework... all .net applications(of same generation) share the same framework
                same as a VB6 program, no different, you cant run a vb6 program without the vb6 runtime
                ok its way smaller, but its 15 years old now, and doesnt do much
                Last edited by mitchjs; 09-01-2011, 06:31 PM.
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                Mitch
                www.rush2112.net

                "Did you test it in carwings??"

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                • #9
                  existing:
                  "COVERART" (and is contexted to the folder you are browsing) will be the image in the folder
                  "ALBUMART" will be the image in the MUSIC folder

                  now with mediaart plugin:

                  "ALBUMART" will be the image in the Embedded MUSIC File Image, if present, else falls back to folder image

                  new to mediaart plugin:
                  "MEDIAART" indicator which is ONLY embedded art from the music file, if exists.

                  this new one are in the mediaart plugin, if you want to try it out pm me, i havent released anything till tested a bit
                  both are active source music only
                  Last edited by mitchjs; 09-02-2011, 05:47 PM.
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                  Mitch
                  www.rush2112.net

                  "Did you test it in carwings??"

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                  The fabric of reality is tearing apart
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                  • #10
                    Added to RR

                    "FOLDERART" indicator which is the MUSIC File's Folder Image, if exists, fall back attemp to "skinpath\NoFolderArt.jpg"
                    -Thanks
                    Mitch
                    www.rush2112.net

                    "Did you test it in carwings??"

                    Sun, Come shine my way
                    May healing waters bury all my pain
                    Wind, Carry me home
                    The fabric of reality is tearing apart
                    The piece of me that died
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mitchjs View Post
                      Added to RR

                      "FOLDERART" indicator which is the MUSIC File's Folder Image, if exists, fall back attemp to "skinpath\NoFolderArt.jpg"
                      hi mitch,

                      thanks for your help.

                      now i cant wait for the new RR install.

                      regards
                      Last edited by GF-ler; 09-03-2011, 10:36 AM. Reason: take a look inside mediart

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by guino View Post
                        For the RadioArt, if you're using just the frequency, you can add an indicator to the screen you want to display the art file desired -- i.e. Indicator code: "FILE;$RRPATH$RadioArt\$CURFREQ$.PNG" and then on the load of the screen or on a timer basis on that screen you'd execute "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY".
                        Hi Guino,

                        after a long try to get the Station Picture in my Skin i found the reason why it didnīt work.
                        The Files in the RadioArt Folder are named....Example 8760...10060 aso. with any commata.
                        So i think, the Basic of RR need a File without any commata.
                        The Variable of "FREQUENCE" or "FREQUENCY" is written in 87,6....106,6 aso. with commata.
                        if i compare both...the file without commata and the variable, the result is nothing. so it found no pic.
                        what i can do is, make a second part of RadioStation Pictures with a commata....
                        BUT is this what you mean ? or is there another way ?

                        i also try it to use the RDS PI information, but most stations have no PI or RR could not show them.

                        regards

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                        • #13
                          its cause you're in germany, you people use the comma where we use the decimal point

                          "frequence" should have a comma in it

                          anyway...

                          commas or decimal points are NOT used to build filename

                          if the frequence is 94.1 or for you 94,1
                          the file is called
                          9410.png or 9410.jpg

                          frequence 106.2 or 106,2
                          10620.png or 10620.jpg

                          if the frequence is 610AM, its:
                          610.png or 610.jpg

                          if you are finding this not the case, i can set my system to use (ugh) commas

                          also its VERY important when talking about radio to tell us what radio module you are using, example "SiLabs"

                          (.png, .jpg, or .gif)

                          ps I tested with HD Radio & Silabs
                          Last edited by mitchjs; 09-09-2011, 07:48 PM.
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                          "Did you test it in carwings??"

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                          May healing waters bury all my pain
                          Wind, Carry me home
                          The fabric of reality is tearing apart
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                          • #14
                            hi mitch,

                            at first...i use a ADS / Silabs radio.

                            all what you have written before is correct.

                            and you say it yourself....."frequence" should have a comma in it

                            Guino gives me for loading the RadioArt pic the line
                            "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY".

                            this line means, load "Frequence" and shift it into "Curfreq". and it shift the comma too.
                            but in my radioart folder is no pic with a comma or dot saved.
                            for basic RR working it need a file without it. the dot or comma you build inside the RR code.

                            i dont want to change it, i only ask...is there a label or whatever where is written the basic form of "frequence".
                            as i take a look inside my radio.ini file i see the last frequence i used in my radio. is it possible to work with this value ?
                            and what is his name ?

                            thanks for your help

                            regards
                            Attached Files

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                            • #15
                              i am at a loss, radioart is radioart...

                              there is no lable in rr, that doesnt have the comma or decimal point for frequency
                              if you want one, i suggest doing a eval on it, and multiply by 100

                              "SETVARBYCODE;CURFREQ;FREQUENCY"
                              "eval;LCURFREQ;$CURFREQ$*100"


                              LCURFREQ now would be as example 10610 if FREQUENCY = 106.1
                              -Thanks
                              Mitch
                              www.rush2112.net

                              "Did you test it in carwings??"

                              Sun, Come shine my way
                              May healing waters bury all my pain
                              Wind, Carry me home
                              The fabric of reality is tearing apart
                              The piece of me that died
                              Will return To live again

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