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  • Streets and Trips 2006 released!!!

    If only there was an SDK for this.... Still, it's working pretty well even without it. I'm going to spend $40 on it just so I can have the night mode


    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...abilityPR.mspx

    • New! Voice-Prompted Directions work with the GPS Locator to provide an easy-to-use, hands-free option that delivers turn-by-turn directional information to the desired destination.

    • New! Driving Guidance Pane prominently displays text-prompted turn-by-turn directions, enlarged arrows indicating where to turn, and distance measurement by miles and yards as drivers get closer to the destination.

    • New! Dynamic Turn View automatically zooms in to travelers’ current position, allowing them to see where they are and upcoming directional changes.

    • New! Night Map Style enhances views of maps and directions for easy reading when consumers are traveling at night or on dark roadways.

    • New! Locate Me technology helps lost travelers who don’t have their GPS Locator on hand determine where they are by utilizing Wi-Fi hot spots to estimate their location to help them get back on track or find nearby points of interest. Consumers can also go online to cross-reference MSN® Virtual Earth™ for greater trip-planning accuracy through additional maps and aerial imagery.
    Matt Atkins
    Seattle5s | President
    '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
    Factory nav.... for now

    Old Car (almost sold)
    '98 540i-6 blk/blk
    Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

  • #2
    I have been trying to find a release date for the next version of Map Point... it would be great if Map Point had this functionality included.

    Edit...

    Ok, so it looks like there is going to be a Map Point 2006!

    http://www.mp2kmag.com/mappoint/disc...=mappoint+2006

    http://www.mp2kmag.com/mappoint/disc...=mappoint+2006

    Edit....

    I've just received this from PR....

    Quote....

    I just spoke with the guys in PR for MapPoint. They said to expect the release of MapPoint 2006 early in the calendar year, the date is still TBD.

    End Quote...
    06 Volvo XC90
    Use to have installed MII 10000/512Mb/40GB, Lilliput 7", OPUS 90W, Wifi-G PCMCIA, Head Unit Aux adapter, Delorme GPS, XM PCR, Audigy NX, RR
    Car PC downloads: http://carpc.harteveldt.com/

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    • #3
      WOW, this is COOL. I Installed it a little bit ago and am working through a few bugs, but this is really cool. When you have it set to auto zoom, it... damn, hard to explain. It's more of a fluid motion rather than trying to keep you exactly centered. And when you get off course, it lets you know. However, it doesn't keep you centered then either. I just tries to keep you and as much of the map possible on the screen at the same time. That means, you (the blip) can ben in the far corner of the screen going one direction with the rest of the screen showing your route.

      So far I'm VERY impressed. Even though the integration with RR is a little sloppy, it's well worth $40. If Mappoint 2006 has all of these features this will be awesome! If the reports are right, I'll let you know next month. :-)
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      Matt Atkins
      Seattle5s | President
      '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
      Factory nav.... for now

      Old Car (almost sold)
      '98 540i-6 blk/blk
      Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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      • #4
        Wow. If that image is right, it looks like black with green tracer streets...if so, that makes it worth the purchase right there...nothing more annoying at night than the standard white maps with black streets.

        Hope the new MP has that too.

        Wonder if there's a way to edit/alter the map files in the current versions to alter the colors. Anyone know? Preferrably in MapPoint.

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        • #5
          Osk

          Hey Mattkins99,

          did u ever get that OSK to work yet with RR? I still couldn' t get it to type in MS Street and Trips...

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          • #6
            No, I've actually removed it from the new skin I've created (Based on the Brushed Metal skin) I have a wireless keyboard/trackball so I just use that to type. Another option would be to use NaviVoice (Or, I think it's called PowerVoice now...)

            I'll see what I can do with it if I get some time tonight.`
            Matt Atkins
            Seattle5s | President
            '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
            Factory nav.... for now

            Old Car (almost sold)
            '98 540i-6 blk/blk
            Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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            • #7
              My first roadtrip review with S&T 2006

              Ok yesterday I decided to go head up to Cape Flattery just outside Neah Bay, WA. I live in the Seattle area, so it was about a 400 mile round trip.

              Pros:
              - Night mode is cool. It really makes things easier to see and read (additional note in Cons section)
              - Interface with Road Runner is a lot better. With the old streets and trips, you couldn't load a route because the Window Class was always different, and a saved document had a different window title than a new window. The new S&T keeps the window title the same no matter what. (Window class still changes though :-( )
              - Guidance window is cool. It gives you directional arrows for your next turn, text telling you exactly what to do, a progress bar telling you have far along you are on that particular segment of road, and a mileage gage to tell you how far until the next turn. (There’s a minus about this window)
              - Voice directions are nice if you have the right voice running on the system. Big plus, is there's a NICE BIG BUTTON to TURN IT OFF and another big button to have it repeat what it last said. :-) (Read why you might want to do this below)
              - Routing got better. You can set up a route and the system knows where you are. In the old streets and trips, you just had a static route and you had to follow it on your own.
              - Reroute in the middle of a route. Because it now knows where you are in a particular segment of a route, it now allows you to adjust your route mid-route. Meaning, if you are in-between waypoint 10 and 11 and get off course for some reason or another, you can hit the reroute button and it will just reroute you to your next waypoint.
              - GPS settings are saved. With S&T 2005, you had to click a button to turn on GPS, then click another button to have it center you, and then click a third button to set it to rotate map as you drive. With 2006, however, all you have to do is turn on GPS and it remembers your other settings (Center map, rotate, Guidence mode)

              Cons:
              - Night mode.... the side streets are a bit too dark. Main streets and your intended route is fine, but the small side streets are so dark they can be hard to see
              - Guidance window. It takes up half the screen by default, and on an 800x600 screen, you can only shrink it to about a third of the screen.
              - Nav Voice. The nav voice is nice, but the tolerance for being on route and off route is too sensitive. These GPS maps are nice, but often times, they a little wrong. Around the Seattle area I didn't have this problem, but out past Port Angeles in the rural areas, I would commonly tell me I was off route only to have it tell me I was back on rote a few seconds later.
              - Nav voice is too detailed. It tells you every segment of the road. If I pass a fork in the road it will tell me about it, even if I'm coming from one of the forks (where is obvious what direction I have to go)
              - Same road in a different direction. Because I went to Cape Flattery and back, I took many of the same roads, just in a different direction. The system as a whole handled this VERY well; however, I did notice that when I was on my way back on these roads, it would often give me the voice information for both directions. Guidance knew which way I was going, but the *sometimes* the voice didn't. Very strange.
              - Nav voice uses wave output. I'm guessing that's just the way it has to be.... so I can't really knock it that hard, but I'm going to anyway. Probem is, you're driving along listening to music and the nav voice plays with the music... so you can't really here it. There is a repeat button... but... it would be nice if there was another cleaner option with this. Also, I really can't fault Streets and Trips for this because the the sound output isn't determined by S&T, but rather SAPI5... and on my computer, wave out is the only option. I'm still looking into options like a virtual Audio out channel for this, but as of yet, I haven't figured anything out.
              - Guidence mode comes on by default. This is kind of annoying because when you turn GPS on in Guidence mode, you get one of those warning messages like you get in factory nav systems. it's got nice big buttons to click OK past it but then the guidence window opens by default. I don't have a custom button created in my skin to toggle this window yet, but it is on my list of things to do before I post this skin because the X button for this window in the program is TINY!!



              All and all, for $40 (if you already have a GPS mouse) I think it's VERY worth it. The interface isn't the best, but it works for the most part. For those without wireless keyboards a little work needs to be done to get the OSK working... but other than that, I think we now have a great alternative to the more expensive nav programs. Sure, it's not as good as Map Monkey (at least from what I've seen as I've never used it) but it's only a fraction of the cost. IMHO, If Mappoint 2006 is released with all of these options, the only thing we will be missing is a 3D view.
              Matt Atkins
              Seattle5s | President
              '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
              Factory nav.... for now

              Old Car (almost sold)
              '98 540i-6 blk/blk
              Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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              • #8
                Just thought I'd share this:
                CompUSA.com has Streets & Trips 2006 with GPS Locator for $80
                http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...ct_code=333303

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                • #9
                  I am going to frys right now, how did I miss this?

                  It was funny to see the screen shot up there when I first saw it.

                  Chris

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                  • #10
                    Costco has it for $14.99 after rebate. This is at the store, not online.
                    EPIA Nehemiah M10k, M1-ATX, 20GB 4200 RPM 2.5", 256MB RAM, Win XP Home, Gyration RF Keyboard & Mouse, Zoltrix Nightingale Optical 4.1 PCI Sound Card, Lilliput 619GL-70NP, XM-PCR w/ optical upgrade, Garmin GPS-25LVS, Microsoft MN-710 USB Wireless NIC

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                    • #11
                      Ok, lucky I was slow to get out of my chair, Costco it is, Thanks!

                      Chris

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                      • #12
                        Ok, a few install notes, to make life harder MS has changed the default install directory from "Microsoft Streets and Trips" to Microsoft Streets & Trips". I changed the default back to "and" so the skin still works as well as it did before.

                        I am going to see if I can edit the GPS pane again for bigger buttons and change the skin to work better with this version. I am probably going to add a "near full screen" screen as well (removing the top bar) because the directions thing takes up a lot of real estate. So it will end up a three screen skin. Normal, with audio, near full screen, not too bad.

                        I am on a trip out to Tampa next week so I am hoping the time on the air will be some good quiet time for me to rework the skin to add some functionality.

                        Chris

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HyperSprite
                          Ok, a few install notes, to make life harder MS has changed the default install directory from "Microsoft Streets and Trips" to Microsoft Streets & Trips". I changed the default back to "and" so the skin still works as well as it did before.

                          I am going to see if I can edit the GPS pane again for bigger buttons and change the skin to work better with this version. I am probably going to add a "near full screen" screen as well (removing the top bar) because the directions thing takes up a lot of real estate. So it will end up a three screen skin. Normal, with audio, near full screen, not too bad.

                          I am on a trip out to Tampa next week so I am hoping the time on the air will be some good quiet time for me to rework the skin to add some functionality.

                          Chris
                          hey, I made a new skin file based on the work you did to go with the Brushed Metal skin. I'll post tonight when I get a chance.

                          Also, I modified the button commands to contain the ACTIVATE command before the SENDKEY command. It seems to work a little better. That, and some of the commands like %UR I repaced with ^r
                          Matt Atkins
                          Seattle5s | President
                          '01 M5 Lemans Blue/two tone black and silver interior
                          Factory nav.... for now

                          Old Car (almost sold)
                          '98 540i-6 blk/blk
                          Dell 300m | Xenarc 7" | Road Runner | iBusCOMM | NaviVoice | Streets & Trips GPS

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                          • #14
                            cool

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