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    I have been a pretty dedicated FP user but I'm now looking into other frontends.. When going to the front ends section of the forum I see that RR has more posts then any other frontend.. That leads me to believe that it has the most users..

    I downloaded RR and played with it a little bit but haven't put it "in-car use"..

    Are there any FP users who switched to RR and can tell me why? Or any hardcore RR users that can tell me the best part about RR?

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  • #2
    The only reason I won't even try RR is because it doesn't use a database. I've got way too many songs to not have a database frontend.
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    • #3
      Well the thing that sucks about FP is when I add 1 song it has to rebuild the database which takes over 15 minutes..
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      • #4
        Originally posted by tbird2340
        Well the thing that sucks about FP is when I add 1 song it has to rebuild the database which takes over 15 minutes..
        No in 1.10

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        • #5
          Where do I get it? I posted in the "making some updates" thread.. I said I just redid my PC and asked which version of FP I should install but no one got back to me..
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          • #6
            http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62103

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            Originally posted by bgoodman
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            • #7
              I just stuck that ***** so everybody can see it...

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              Originally posted by bgoodman
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              • #8
                Originally posted by tbird2340
                Well the thing that sucks about FP is when I add 1 song it has to rebuild the database which takes over 15 minutes..
                The assumption is that you are playing/browsing songs much more often than you are adding/deleting. If your storage capacity is so small that you are actually need to add/delete songs all the time, then by the same token your DB rebuilds will not take a long time.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thanatos106
                  Reading the first 5 posts makes me sorta hesitant about installing it..

                  So back to RR VS FP..
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hateeecs
                    The assumption is that you are playing/browsing songs much more often than you are adding/deleting. If your storage capacity is so small that you are actually need to add/delete songs all the time, then by the same token your DB rebuilds will not take a long time.

                    It has nothing to do with storage.. Say I get another CD and rip it to my HDD.. There goes a 30 minute rebuild.. Say I hear a song I like a week later and want to then listen to it in my ride.. Well there goes another 30 minute rebuild.

                    I find the argument you are saying kind of hard to believe.. I think a lot of people add songs quite often..
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                    • #11
                      It is true that there are problems with 1.10, (being the main one that the playlist is broken) but I can tell you that is not complicate at all.. I don't know why frodo put that scaring note about being only for veterans. also skins don't need any mods (only if you adding the two buttons in main screen)

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                      • #12
                        RR vs Frodo.

                        This is only my opinion.

                        I am running RoadRunner

                        I didn't install Frodo, mainly because there seemed to many 'requirements' before getting started.

                        Also I like the fact that RR is continually being updated, is easily skinnable (FP maybe as well), and the source is available so other people can have an input, and god forbid Guino decides he has enough, there are many out there who will take on the mantle.

                        The only thing I am waiting for on RR is dual screens, when It has that it will the bees knees (hint hint)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by xBrady
                          The only reason I won't even try RR is because it doesn't use a database. I've got way too many songs to not have a database frontend.
                          seems like a very odd reason to not even try something. Sounds kind of like, how can processor A be faster than processor B, when A has lower Mhz? AMD and Intel anyone.
                          Ive added thousands of tracks to RR and havent had any speed issues with playlist or loading playlist or tracks.


                          as far as whats the biggest differences between FP and RR, i can say i was a hardcore FP user and still much respect for Frodo. Im also now a hardcore RR user with much respect for Guino and all other who contribute to RR.

                          FP is for the most part a one monkey show so updates etc, will suffer based on how busy the monkey is with picking bannanas and other aspects of personal life.

                          RR is open source, and although Guino is the main contributer to the code base, there have been significant additions by other people. Which leads to incredible update frequency. Its no suprise to see 3 updates in one month, and they arent just bug fixes. Also, the skinning peeps release and update skins almost everyday it seems.

                          FP is light fast > but the UI is also not as full featured as RR

                          FP is database driven > but new tracks addes will require the database be rebuilt

                          FP is based on windows media player> RR is based on winamp, choose your poison
                          winamp is far more customizeable than wmp with addons etc

                          RR has multiple solutions for intergrated and embeded GPS apps and gps related features that go beyond just embeding your favorite gps apps window.

                          RR is very, very, very customizeable with sending and recieving commands from external apps, flash objects, scripts etc. Although the learning curve is steaper than FP, you can bend RR to do pretty much whatever you want. And if you cant, someone is working on a solution.

                          FP is audio player based, meaning the main screen you see when you first open the program is the audio player. RR is in a way menu based, but in no way restricted to this. You can have it as lite or bloated as you want.

                          strip away all the candy and fluff, get down to the meat of things and the core feature of both of these apps. The audio player, i mean music IS the reason most of us are even doing any of this, with GPS nav being a close second.

                          FP audio player has a bunch of different modes to browse through your media, of which i only used Directory2 as i dont like ID3tags (even though mine are accurate). FP shows the directory of music in one list and the tracks contained in that Dir in another list, its also recursive so if you have a DIR that has 5 folders each with a differnt album, you dont have to select each folder to see or play whats in each album. Just select the parent folder, all children are loaded and ready to play instantly. Select/highlight Dir and click play, or do nothing and when the current track is finished playing it will automaticly start playing the new Dir. This method IMO is the fastest and easiest way to play your music that is available,.... still.

                          RR has a few different ways to browse your media. First off being playlist based, you must first locate what tracks you want to listen to, then replace or append them to the playlist. You can locate the tracks by browseing through the physical DIR structure that the media is located in, similar to Directory2 mode in FP. Or you can browse by Artist, Album, Genre sorted by ID3 tags (also avail in FP) using the winamp lib database. Or you can browse by album art, which is just like directory browseing, but with thumbnail pics of each album. There is no loading in Album art mode, while FP preloads the album art.

                          Both methods are fast and both apps offer more than one method of getting to your music. But in my honest opinion there isnt a frontend or audio player in general that has successfully done this task 100% the way i would like to. But that dosent mean it wont for you.

                          Other things that moved me from FP to RR, for the most part were how customizeable RR is with its skinning and commands, that i basicly build my own frontend to work the way i want it to work (w exceptions) and look the way i want it to look. My current skin LSX, with its layout and features and extra stuff wouldnt work with FP (thats why the port is still on hold).


                          so in a nut shell, download both apps try them out and see what you like.
                          If you want to really know which frontend is most popular, dont look at the number of posted threads, although this will give you a good idea but always the case. Look at how many skins are available for any frontend and that will give you a very good idea of how the app is going.
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                          • #14
                            While playing with RR I embedded IG.. I don't know if it was the skin I was using or if it's not possible but there isn't any way to change songs while in IG?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tbird2340
                              I have been a pretty dedicated FP user but I'm now looking into other frontends.. When going to the front ends section of the forum I see that RR has more posts then any other frontend.. That leads me to believe that it has the most users..
                              More posts may mean more problems

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