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    OK, here goes... I plan on slapping this puppy in a 2005 Ford Taurus SE as a replacement for the factory radio if I can get it to work out. Pretty sure an aftermarket dash kit will work but itsa bit odd as my climate controls and radio are all built in on huge chunk o' plastic.

    1. I have seen several this and thats dont function.. I realize this is beta but at this point I have to ask exactly what does/does not work and what kind of development is actually going into it? I mean 1600 for what this is claiming it will do is not that bad at all but if the dev is slower than... well lets just say if the dev is slow then 1 yr of update wont do squat as it will still be bug ridden.

    2. All the "optional" hardware (OBD-II, etc. etc.) can it be purchased in addition to the package.

    3. Does anybody have a diagram or some form of install dorection I can view beforehand... I would like it if I could get it working with the factory audio harness but if not I'd like to be able to determine how much chop shop I will have to do to my car.

    4. Thanks for your understanding and any assist you can give me to answer the above inquiry.

  • #2
    1. it will fully work if you make it work

    2. Might be able to but would all be on what you wanted

    3. You should be able to conect to the factory wiers but again it would all be on what you wanted to fully do

    hope that kind of helps, any more questions
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    • #3
      I could be wrong about any of this as I'm not affiliated with StreetDeck in any capacity other than running a pre-beta of the software on unsupported hardware:

      Originally posted by HarshReality
      1. I have seen several this and thats dont function.. I realize this is beta but at this point I have to ask exactly what does/does not work and what kind of development is actually going into it? I mean 1600 for what this is claiming it will do is not that bad at all but if the dev is slower than... well lets just say if the dev is slow then 1 yr of update wont do squat as it will still be bug ridden.
      As of right now, OBD-II, external relays and bluetooth are all *officially* non-functional. XM Radio has a lot of work to be done on it too, but it does work. That isn't to say you can't get hardware to work for these areas of functionality, but the OFFICIAL hardware and OFFICIAL solution are not done.

      2. All the "optional" hardware (OBD-II, etc. etc.) can it be purchased in addition to the package.
      If we knew what the officially supported "optional" hardware was (if it even exists yet), then yes.

      3. Does anybody have a diagram or some form of install dorection I can view beforehand... I would like it if I could get it working with the factory audio harness but if not I'd like to be able to determine how much chop shop I will have to do to my car.
      No. You'll need to dig around and do some research for your car. Three basic things you'll need to determine:

      1. Can you alter your dash to accept one/two/any standard-sized radio device(s) (DIN, whatever)?

      2. How do you get a power wire from your battery to your trunk (just as if you were installing an aftermarket amp)? Similarly, how do you get wires from your dash area to your trunk?

      3. If you are planning on keeping your factory radio, if there a way of "adding" an AUXILLARY input to it (so your carPC plays through the car's sound system).

      If you can answer these questions, you can pretty much determine a plan of attack for installing any carPC successfully.

      To answer #1, I'd look around these forums for anyone who has the same model of your car and see what they've done. Or give Crutchfield a call, see if they have a dash conversion kit (just did this with my buddy's 2003 Accord).

      #2 will probably be the hardest to find out. My only recommendations here is either start crawling around in your car and see if you can find pathways yourself, or give your local audio shop a call.

      #3 should be fairly simple as well. Check out pac-audio.com or give crutchfield a call about this too.

      Unfortunately, you probably won't be able to keep your stock HU, add an auxillary input to it AND adapt the dash to accept a standard DIN-sized device.

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      • #4
        OBD II is fully working and functional. I don't think we put the tested hardware up on the store yet, but there is a plugin that will work with anything with an ELM chip, i.e. the ELMScan 5. Relay control is working and functional, however, there is no plugin available for any hardware, eventually we will probably have a plugin for phidgets hardware, you can also write your own plugin if you can program a dll.

        Bluetooth is based on our own hardware that is in production now and there is no way to make it work at this point.

        The only problems I've heard about XM Radio at this point weren't software related. Unless there are more problems posted about it, very little will change between now and the final release. AM/FM radio is poorly supported at this point and it will be hard to get it to work until we release our own radio hardware.

        The primary development that is going on now with StreetDeck is we are exposing the StreetDeck object model for the SDK, ensuring stability of the program, optimizing the current functionality, and adding support for some more hardware. Functionally, with the exception of multimonitor support, nothing is going to be added to the BETA before the final release. There are multiple developers on StreetDeck and the resources devoted to it are doubling every few months. Like any other company doing R&D though, we can't talk too much about products in development, but I can tell you StreetDeck is a very active project, more so then what can be gathered from the public forums. We are currently overdue for an update, but the goal is to release patches on a monthly basis until no more bugs are reported.

        The difference between buying StreetDeck BETA now and StreetDeck once the final version is released, is we will have hardware that will make the install much easier and plug and play hardware for all features of StreetDeck and a garuntee that all things will work as advertised. If you want an easy install, you are much better off waiting.
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        The Official StreetDeck Forums have moved, please visit us at http://www.streetdeck.com/forum for official support for Streetdeck.

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        • #5
          Thanks for your responses. I found them to be very helpful. I think I'll hold off on purchase until things are a bit more user friendly and stabilized.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by god_of_cpu
            The difference between buying StreetDeck BETA now and StreetDeck once the final version is released, is we will have hardware that will make the install much easier and plug and play hardware for all features of StreetDeck and a garuntee that all things will work as advertised. If you want an easy install, you are much better off waiting.
            I plan on waiting, too. But for how long?

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            • #7
              We should have some new StreetDeck platforms out within the next 6 months.
              StreetDeck.com Developer (I am Chuck)
              Get StreetDeck at http://www.streetdeck.com
              The Official StreetDeck Forums have moved, please visit us at http://www.streetdeck.com/forum for official support for Streetdeck.

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              • #8
                I can confirm OBDII works just fine. I used hardware from www.myscantool.com.

                I know the StreetDeck folks don't want to be inundated with support issues with the Beta release and various hardware that aren't officially supported and I can understand non-techie people not wanting to have to deal with glitches here and there...

                BUT....

                This whole package is a very cool, unique piece of software that I can't see myself doing without. I look forward to every drive to work in the morning and back home! Once you do finally get it in your car, you're gonna kick yourself for having waited. But that's just my opinion as a voluntary beta tester.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rcdash
                  I can confirm OBDII works just fine. I used hardware from www.myscantool.com.

                  I know the StreetDeck folks don't want to be inundated with support issues with the Beta release and various hardware that aren't officially supported and I can understand non-techie people not wanting to have to deal with glitches here and there...

                  BUT....

                  This whole package is a very cool, unique piece of software that I can't see myself doing without. I look forward to every drive to work in the morning and back home! Once you do finally get it in your car, you're gonna kick yourself for having waited. But that's just my opinion as a voluntary beta tester.

                  I agree with you 110%. I love it and thank you for posting that link. I'm gonna look into the hardware right now!


                  Rich
                  http://www.mybimmer.net

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                  • #10
                    I actually have mine that I'm not using (because I got another vehicle specific tool - called CIPHER for G35 cars).

                    If you want one for cheaper - I have the ISO version. I think they now have a universal version.

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                    • #11
                      R&D cant be rushed, I understand this. The only thing that comes from hurried releases is more mess. So I wouldn't be suprised if it was @ 12 months before this makes it out free and clear.

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                      • #12
                        If done correctly and you follow "the rules" and pay attention to "the fixes," the install should be fairly clean. I personally had Car Toys do the installation, and I would suggest a professional install if you are even a little shaky about tearing the car up (even though this will likely add a good chunk of change to the purchase). The system is an excellent system and regardless of the term BETA, the customer support is still excellent. If you compare to the free software and cheaper hardware out there, this is still a more complete system.

                        The difference with Streetdeck is in the quality of workmanship on the software package. I have tried a few others and can tell you that even though they offer similar products, but there is no support and things don't always work as you would expect from those packages.

                        If MP3CAR is willing to continue to support those of us that spent the money to put their system in our cars and give us the opportunity to receive the software upgrades for free (and if hardware, then discounted), then I think it makes no difference. What I would do is list the hardware you intend to buy and ask for a suggestion on the install of that hardware. This should get you a good idea of the issues people have had and save you a lot of heartache...

                        The bottom line is that Streetdeck is not for the weak pocketbook, but is definitely an extraordinary system (even in BETA).
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                        • #13
                          OK, since what is R&D for the most part is the software here can one of teh devs post a complete parts list they have (I understand you have alot of stuff that you have to get in addition) so I can get a general idea of total cost for this little project to have it fully functional? I already got a replacement head unit for my car to experiment with mounting an LCD and a nifty pair of rubber gloves

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                          • #14
                            OK guys throw me a bone, I have the checkbook and 3 fresh credit cards and a will to play all I need is a what and where (complete parts list aside of streetdeck) to get this completely going

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                            • #15
                              And many moons later.. Still havent located a way or adapter that I can simply plug into the amp in the trunk without chopping wires... Guess this is a bust unless there is a pdf somewhere that details the process.. as for power I have the amp/reciever in the trunk and its getting 12 volts (which is what Im trying to hook the thing into so it uses the cars factory amp/speakers/power.

                              The dash isnt a problem.. trup to a salvage yard and get another head unit for modding and I am good to go.. the factory is a double din so is plenty of room. BTW those new models for SD look mighty damn tempting.... too bad they didnt add a USB port or two near the internal dvd drive....

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