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    Ok its YAWO-GPS, yet-another-windows-only GPS.

    No matter what features it has, my response is YAAAAWWWWNN.

    Not for mac, not for linux, and I don't use WINE or any of that crap.

    Really, I expected streetdeck to be something new, hell I'll just use iguidance if I'm on windoze.

    Cmon linux fans, lets do GPS for the power user, but faggettabout that gpsDrive app, that thing sucks.

    Streetdeck for windoze, who cares?

  • #2
    A lot of people care.. If your looking for a gps app that runs under linux, and the current slew of crap doesnt work for you, why not code YACLGATDWAP (Yet another crap linux gps app that doesn't work as promised).. I'd would be awesome it apps could magicly work on different platforms, I'm sure all the developers in the world would love this, but its something that doesnt happen instantly when you compile your app..

    The work being done with Wine + StreetDeck is progressing well, why not help with this if you dont like the current solution?

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    • #3
      Roadnav is actually pretty slick, in my opinion. It doesn't have many features, but it can at least show your position. I think what linux needs before it needs a GPS app is a Roadrunner skin compatible frontend. If I had that, windows would be gone from my carputer for good.

      http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/

      I take that back about not many features, it actually has quite a few features, it just doesn't look super pretty
      What I've been listening to
      What I've been driving

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      • #4
        Honestly if you knew anything about windows or linux you'd know that windows is the perfect platform for streetdeck. Period.
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        • #5
          Each OS mentioned above has its strenghts... and weaknesses.

          Streetdeck should apeal to the masses. Windows is for the masses.

          I run XP, OSX and Redhat each for their own "strenghts". To ***** that Streetdeck does not run on other platforms is kind of rediculous.

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          • #6
            There currently is a user out there trying to convert Streetdeck to Linux, but is running into problems with DirectX 9.0b on linux (Streetdeck is compiled with that and linux is lacking...) and also Streetdeck has active protection against disassemblers, so I don't know how far he will get. You might want to ask him on that thread if he got any farther.

            And from a logical point of view, why would you code something to be commercially available for only like 5% of the users which includes OSX and various Linux distros? You want money to rebuild some of the developement and advertising costs, as well as profit! So the obvious choice is windows. If windows was really that bad, then why do most people in the world use it?!

            And seeing as how it will be in your car, security loop holes and everything don't matter. Nobody is going to be hacking into your mobile car. And if you use Streetdeck, then you probably won't ever be wading through XP once you get it set up. So if you like Streetdeck then install windows and use it. I can almost guarentee that you won't be using the OS nomatter what kind for anything but running your front-end.
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            • #7
              Here is that thread I was talking about: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=83250
              Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
              1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
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              15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
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              • #8
                How stupid to come in the SD forum and post that it sucks because it doesn't run on Linux.. If you need to complain so badly ... go code your own front end! Try contributing instead of just complaining!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
                  And seeing as how it will be in your car, security loop holes and everything don't matter. Nobody is going to be hacking into your mobile car.
                  Not yet at least. But I can see the day (very soon) when even a mobile version of the OS will be attacked. Think about it. It's already started. Functionality in most front ends for user to access the internet (through their cell phone or WiFi) is already here, and it's only going to get more used as it becomes easier to stay connected _ALL_ the time.
                  Anyhoo, to get back on topic, you're right. making SD for WinXP was the best chioce from a financial standpoint. There guys are out to make money with the product. Why soot yourself in the foot by making a linux native only version, when windows version can be so much more profitable.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Outsider787 View Post
                    Not yet at least. But I can see the day (very soon) when even a mobile version of the OS will be attacked. Think about it. It's already started. Functionality in most front ends for user to access the internet (through their cell phone or WiFi) is already here, and it's only going to get more used as it becomes easier to stay connected _ALL_ the time.
                    lol.. you make it sound as if next week we'll need to be looking out for strange black cars following us around as we drive, trying to compromise our open wireless networks. "I've got root access! Look at all those sweet .mp3s! Well, not much else to see here!"
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                    • #11
                      no just..

                      No, just trying to fire somebody up enuff to build a solid GPS app for linux and we can get the party started.

                      On windoze, I see tonnage of GPS apps, so why do it again, will anyone notice? out of the simulacra of gps apps on windows, who will even find it?

                      BUT if you would do linux, then scores of netizens would come out of the woodwork to use it and adopt it on that platform, enuf to make it worth it by far, esp. since GPS is such a hole on *nix (even mac).

                      This is why I get frustrated.

                      B/C linux, yes is a small % share. And yes, linux types are not your high end bulk buyers. But there is real value in attracting the power linux user to tinker with your app:

                      1. the OSS innovation cycle should work extremely well with GIS/GPS type apps (if you're dozer-only then forget the OSS cycle),

                      2. porting to mac from nix is not so bad (and easy when the OSS world does it for you), while porting to small embedded/linux devices yeh ...

                      3. encourages integration with other apps (including web-apps) as users knit it into more possibilities

                      So, own the copyright + url-domain + application-name, drive the OSS cycle, port to mac, and let a thousand flowers bloom ... whether it makes it to windozer or not.

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                      • #12
                        windoze... I'z is so smrt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rocken View Post
                          No, just trying to fire somebody up enuff to build a solid GPS app for linux and we can get the party started.

                          On windoze, I see tonnage of GPS apps, so why do it again, will anyone notice? out of the simulacra of gps apps on windows, who will even find it?

                          BUT if you would do linux, then scores of netizens would come out of the woodwork to use it and adopt it on that platform, enuf to make it worth it by far, esp. since GPS is such a hole on *nix (even mac).

                          This is why I get frustrated.

                          B/C linux, yes is a small % share. And yes, linux types are not your high end bulk buyers. But there is real value in attracting the power linux user to tinker with your app:

                          1. the OSS innovation cycle should work extremely well with GIS/GPS type apps (if you're dozer-only then forget the OSS cycle),

                          2. porting to mac from nix is not so bad (and easy when the OSS world does it for you), while porting to small embedded/linux devices yeh ...

                          3. encourages integration with other apps (including web-apps) as users knit it into more possibilities

                          So, own the copyright + url-domain + application-name, drive the OSS cycle, port to mac, and let a thousand flowers bloom ... whether it makes it to windozer or not.

                          I seriously doubt it was the intentions of SD to create a "nitche" system that was exciting to err.... 5 users just because it ran on a Unix/Linux box. I also don't think it was their intentions to create an open source solution that people could bastardize... I believe the point your missing is the goal was creating the best solution with the most features and make some money off of it (no chance with Linux). If you are that anti-windows, you aren't going to get very far in this world... Whether Linux users want to face it or not, PC's running Windows still dominate (and probably always will) the market. Bring the products to the masses as that is how money is made.
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                          • #14
                            You're better off that it doesn't work on Linux, it's saves you from spending $200 of software that works right half the time. Kinda reminds me of a Microsoft product.

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                            • #15
                              Ok some more ...

                              msreyes windoze... I'z is so smrt.
                              Well it works both ways bro, "msreyes" thats real smrt too.

                              ryguy Honestly if you knew anything about windows or linux you'd know that windows is the perfect platform for streetdeck. Period.
                              That is a matter of opinion and I'm sure users don't go out and study up on windows vs. linux, they just want a GPS app on their box, unless you're just selling to developers?

                              gosmondson The work being done with Wine + StreetDeck is progressing well, why not help with this if you dont like the current solution?
                              I refuse this port-to-wine crap, either its good for linux or not, also I can't contribute to source code going the wine route.

                              Also, why should I port-to-wine when it costs $200 and sux for linux?

                              2k1Toaster And from a logical point of view, why would you code something to be commercially available for only like 5% of the users which includes OSX and various Linux distros? You want money to rebuild some of the developement and advertising costs, as well as profit! So the obvious choice is windows. If windows was really that bad, then why do most people in the world use it?!
                              I dig that toaster, but the 5% is a real bad guess :/

                              Think about it: how many GPS apps are there that are on windows now, like 30+ (and if you include the proprietary devices like pioneer, sony, tomtom, etc its upwards of 50-100).

                              How many on mac? 1-4.
                              How many on linux? 1-2.

                              Now is streetdeck going to be better than those cats by doing their own development and working out deals with map providers on their own and staying competitive with a $200 price ONLY for windows? No chance.

                              But if they did it on linux, and embraced OSS methods, then the party starts. At least they can be unique and offer something new.

                              Their money would be made in the rise in user accounts on their website, the traffic on the site (ad-sense), and long term try to work out a licensing deal with a hardware company or an auto company for integration or something along those lines.

                              Sure there is some short term money with the current streetdeck, I bet, but I'd also bet it goes right out the door to some patent dispute and licensing content from navtec.

                              Just don't do shrink wrap GPS dozer-only for $200.

                              Lets do fully interactive GIS/GPS and let the people drive the code.

                              -Word-

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