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  • NEWBIE on Linux Start Up time HELP

    Hey I just got a 15GB hard drive and installed Linspire Linux on it. I have one of the small HP E-PC computers.
    I really dont know much about linux, It works really well and everything but it takes forever to boot.
    Im trying to read a whole lot on how to make it boot faster but I cant understand some of the posts that people made.
    I also went to suspend2.net and were not able to figure it out.
    I just need some orientation on how to make it boot faster or hibernate.
    THANKS

  • #2
    try removing services from your rc-scripts. Google around, you can figure out software suspend the same way.

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    • #3
      I've never used Linspire, but my guess is that it does automagic hardware detection and configuration on each boot. It might be possible to disable this and "cache" the current hardware configuration.

      If you want fast startup times, you'll want to compile your own kernel from scratch with *only* the features/modules/drivers you actually need. Unfortunately, this is non-trivial, especially on systems (such as Linspire) which really expect to be running a fully-featured kernel.

      -g.

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      • #4
        If you want a fast customized system and don't mind getting your hands dirty then I recommend Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org

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        • #5
          I can second Gentoo, but as Llama says you will get your hands dirty. You will also learn a tremendous amount of how things work in the process. I like SuSE as a "ready to go" distro but with alot of things you're forced to do it their way, but often their way is pretty smart anyway.

          1. Go with Gentoo if you don't mind spending alot of time getting things working. You can get a well-tuned Gentoo based system up in easily less than 60 seconds.

          2. Go with SuSE if you want a working system right away that you can still customize fairly easily. But it does boot pretty slow too.
          Silverwolf 2 is dead.
          Silverwolf 3...?

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          • #6
            An example of boot times

            My mini-itx M10000 w/ 30G 4200rpm laptop drive boots from cold to mythtv in 37 seconds. (As in mythtv is running and ready to go) This includes the bios and everything.

            I'm sure there is more I can trim, i just haven't taken the time to do it.

            This machine is running slackware 10.2 with a 2.6.15 kernel trimmed, Xorg 6.9 built from source, and mythtv 0.18.1 from source.

            I use this machine in my living room to watch tv.

            --Zims
            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Now, Where are my Pants?

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            • #7
              ive got my linuxfromscratch install from initial boot time of around 35 seconds(including bios, thats alot considering this has nothing running really) to about 10-15 seconds all i need to get the rest sorted is getting rid of the damn network boot rom

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              • #8
                Originally posted by thecommiser
                ive got my linuxfromscratch install from initial boot time of around 35 seconds(including bios, thats alot considering this has nothing running really) to about 10-15 seconds all i need to get the rest sorted is getting rid of the damn network boot rom
                Where did you find 20 seconds worth of stuff to trim off? BTW, I just discovered ifplugd about a month ago. I was about to write my own software to sense the ethernet port but this does it. It will connect to the network automatically when you have access. This way i'm not waiting for dhcp while I'm in the car and it connects to the network on another thread while your booting.

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                • #9
                  with initNG you can boot your system much faster...

                  http://initng.thinktux.net/index.php/Main_Page

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sarasini
                    with initNG you can boot your system much faster...

                    http://initng.thinktux.net/index.php/Main_Page
                    Yeah, but in a carpc environment, you really don't need to be running any initscripts to begin with. Any services that need to be run should be started by the front end one it is up and running, either in the background or specifically at the request of a user when they are needed.

                    BTW, a stripped linux kernel pre-configured to your environment can get you to a shell in a matter of just a few seconds.

                    -g.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheLlama
                      Where did you find 20 seconds worth of stuff to trim off? BTW, I just discovered ifplugd about a month ago. I was about to write my own software to sense the ethernet port but this does it. It will connect to the network automatically when you have access. This way i'm not waiting for dhcp while I'm in the car and it connects to the network on another thread while your booting.
                      im only using a console application, so doesnt need to load anything on startup

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                      • #12
                        While we are talking about timings here's an utility which can be usefull for new users before they are familiar with linux and they wish go further more.

                        Download or install ntsysv which is a fast and easy way to play with services without having to really care where are "hidden" the services with the associated runlevels
                        It runs from console. I remember that on my first steps with linux i appreciated this utility.

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