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  • Dear God please help me!

    I'm hoping to learn linux, the problem is i don't know which platform to use, I've asked several people and it's like asking the time( you never get the same answer.) So I'm completly lost in which to use, I'm a total noob at linux and i would appreciate some advice as which is a good one to use. I'm currently using xp on my car pc but i want something i've programmed myself( complition time next year hopefully)

  • #2
    Originally posted by christie View Post
    I'm hoping to learn linux, the problem is i don't know which platform to use, I've asked several people and it's like asking the time( you never get the same answer.) So I'm completly lost in which to use, I'm a total noob at linux and i would appreciate some advice as which is a good one to use. I'm currently using xp on my car pc but i want something i've programmed myself( complition time next year hopefully)
    Fedora Core 6 is a great place for a Linux newbie to start. And it will scale well to when you do know what you are doing. I've heard good stuff about Ubuntu (and variants) as well.

    If anyone tells you Gentoo tell them to put down the crack pipe. I admin a large number of production Gentoo servers at a commercial site... just a little insight to this. Gentoo is not a newbie distro unless you are prepared to make a big time commitment and/or have prior real OS experience.

    HTH
    My stagnant project

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    • #3
      Thanks reece146 I've installed fedora core 6 on a spare pc. sorry to be a spaz but which language would be best to programme in c++ python etc? obviosly once i've learnt this i could build something quite crap and smash my skull in frustation

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      • #4
        Originally posted by christie View Post
        Thanks reece146 I've installed fedora core 6 on a spare pc. sorry to be a spaz but which language would be best to programme in c++ python etc? obviosly once i've learnt this i could build something quite crap and smash my skull in frustation
        Are you a novice programmer? If so I would pick something with strong variable typing and minimal use of pointers, etc.

        I'd stay away from C/C++ for now. Python would be a good place to start I believe since it is the current "hot" language for "getting stuff done".

        Once you are coding decent stuff then start looking hard at C. From there everyting will fall into line.

        If you stick with Linux make sure you take the time to learn bash as well. A lot of simple tasks can be accomplished with bash and gnu utils. Also, it will make you a more well rounded UNIX user. I always chuckle when I meet "senior programmers" that are lost without an IDE.

        HTH
        My stagnant project

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        • #5
          I've done some very basic python about 2 years ago, I'll pick up the book and start again, I'll also look at bash. Once again thanks for the advice

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          • #6
            my 2.333... (repeating of course) cents:

            whatever you do, don't give up! whatever you need to get done, you can find a way. You can find tons of stuff by just using google to help solve your problems. You'll almost never be the first one with that specific problem. I started with mandriva linux 10 months ago, moved to fedora core 5 and I ended up with ubuntu as my main distro of choice. I'm almost totally moved away from the windows world (3 of 4 computers running pure Linux). You'll find your cup of tea sure enough... as long as you have the undying spirit and determination to finally use a real operating system.
            Former author of LinuxICE, nghost, nobdy.
            Current author of Automotive Message Broker (AMB).
            Works on Tizen IVI. Does not represent anyone or anything but himself.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kev000 View Post
              my 2.333... (repeating of course) cents:

              whatever you do, don't give up! whatever you need to get done, you can find a way. You can find tons of stuff by just using google to help solve your problems. You'll almost never be the first one with that specific problem. I started with mandriva linux 10 months ago, moved to fedora core 5 and I ended up with ubuntu as my main distro of choice. I'm almost totally moved away from the windows world (3 of 4 computers running pure Linux). You'll find your cup of tea sure enough... as long as you have the undying spirit and determination to finally use a real operating system.
              And from this post, I know that kev000 plays World of Warcraft... or at least knows quite a bit about it.

              Not sure if it's sadder he said it, or that I caught it.
              -dan

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              • #8
                Originally posted by WoLLy View Post
                And from this post, I know that kev000 plays World of Warcraft... or at least knows quite a bit about it.

                Not sure if it's sadder he said it, or that I caught it.
                -dan
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                Post # 3000

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                • #9
                  Go do a search for Leeroy Jenkins

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                  • #10
                    i'm not god but i'll try to help:

                    to start with linux i'd use OpenSuSE (because i never really used fedora (i've used red hat linux 5.0 but that's not really comparable)) but i'm sure fedora is just as good.

                    if you want something more extensible (upgrades) use an ubuntu system it has the best packaging system and all packages in a central repository -> just install it from a catalogue and enjoy not being in package-dependency-hell (is it still that bad on rpm systems?)

                    reece:
                    gentoo on servers? not a really good server distro in my opinion.. except for the stack protector compile option

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by blk View Post
                      gentoo on servers? not a really good server distro in my opinion.. except for the stack protector compile option
                      You know what they say about opinions. Everyone has one.

                      We run Gentoo serving everything in our infrastructure that doesn't require a commercial Windows application server (Financial junk). We support about 600-700 users depending on the time of year. Been doing Gentoo for 2-3 years since the migration away from RH9. No hiccups... But then, our staff don't just play UNIX admins on the Internet. We've been eating/sleeping this stuff for a long time.
                      My stagnant project

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                      • #12
                        I purchased my newest computer with a fresh install of unbuntu on it. absolutly LOVE it, except for the no .wmv compatability(they just upgraded a version and my programs have not cought up). But I do not program farther then personal html pages. So I feel I am only using part of my OS not knowing allot of programming code. Even for part of its usage, unbuntu does circles around windoze for the comfertable computer user type. All my computers are getting it as soon as they are back together.
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                        • #13
                          offtopic:
                          And from this post, I know that kev000 plays World of Warcraft... or at least knows quite a bit about it.

                          Not sure if it's sadder he said it, or that I caught it.
                          -dan
                          WoW?? WTF! Good eye! The MMORPG culture (my brothers are big WoW players), when brought into the real world makes me laugh more than anything else.
                          Former author of LinuxICE, nghost, nobdy.
                          Current author of Automotive Message Broker (AMB).
                          Works on Tizen IVI. Does not represent anyone or anything but himself.

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                          • #14
                            LINUX Vs. Windows

                            Hi,
                            Do you know if a LINUX car PC will start up faster than a Windows car PC?
                            How fast does LINUX boot up when you turn on your car?

                            Thank you,
                            Kami

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                            • #15
                              I think times less than half a minute are common. Hibernate/ resume times get even faster. The fastest I've heard from Linux is about 15 seconds. The best reasons to run Linux over windows are:

                              - excellent community
                              - superior customizability
                              - runs faster on epia systems (and most systems overall... windows is a resource hog)
                              - doesn't cost a dime (just a little time ) including software upgrades
                              - is only getting more popular every day
                              Former author of LinuxICE, nghost, nobdy.
                              Current author of Automotive Message Broker (AMB).
                              Works on Tizen IVI. Does not represent anyone or anything but himself.

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