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  • Please Talk Me Into Using the Mac!

    Hi,

    I was (still am, sorta) planning to do my system with a Mac Mini, but I'm leaning more and more toward Wintel for the following reasons:
    • GPS, GPS, GPS... (Route 66 really, really bites!)
    • 1 or 2 extra monitors seem like a really big hassle
    • Custom boot screen (waking from sleep doesn't need boot screen, though)
    • Skinnable front-end (Tiger may be worth waiting for, though)
    Please say I don't know what I'm talking about. Save me from getting sucked back into Windows just for this!!!

    Thanks.
    Mike

    1998 Volvo V70 R AWD
    2.3L Turbo @ 17psi, 20% Tint
    SP-13000, 7" Lilli, Opus 120, 120GB SATA, Holux GR-213, Headrest LCDs


  • #2
    Well,I have yet to use any computer gps software,multiple monitors on my mac are a snap,plug it in,set its location in preferences and im done.Custom boot screen is possible in osx at the moment,im sure someone will figure out tiger when it comes out too.Check out resexcellence.com for os mods and such.Most important of all,windows is no fun

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    • #3
      Sorry, when I say "extra monitors," what I mean is "cheap monitors" (like back-seat LCD screens for the kids). I know that I can use VGA splitters and hook up more VGA monitors, but I was hoping to use inexpensive LCD monitors with only RCA Video hookups. Although, maybe I can just get away with having a single overhead in the center... hmmm... that Xenarc overhead isn't that much more expensive, is it?
      Mike

      1998 Volvo V70 R AWD
      2.3L Turbo @ 17psi, 20% Tint
      SP-13000, 7" Lilli, Opus 120, 120GB SATA, Holux GR-213, Headrest LCDs

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      • #4
        You can convert DVI to S-Video for $19. http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...nMore=M9267G/A

        You can split DVI with...are you ready....a DVI splitter. I found one for $24.95 here: DVI Splitter

        The boot screen can be taken care of, I'm sure. I can't answer for GPS because you got me there.

        Front ends will come along. MMC is supposed to be released for the Mac and others are at work as well. By the time you're up and running, these will be available.

        I believe there is one report on this forum by someone who has run virtual pc with a GPS program and gotten it to work without it being too slow.

        Plus, going with a CarMac is ground-breaking stuff!
        Originally posted by ghettocruzer
        I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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        • #5
          Bugbyte, you're the man! I found the DVI to S-Video, but not the DVI splitter. I was just now working on a complex chain of adapters to get what I'm going for, but you might have saved the day...

          edit: Wait a minute - are you sure that will split DVI? It looks like it's only for certain Matrox cards... maybe we can find out which splitters like this will work with the Mac Mini?

          I guess I'll just have to jump in and prepare to wait for a good GPS system. For the time being I can always use my iQue.
          Mike

          1998 Volvo V70 R AWD
          2.3L Turbo @ 17psi, 20% Tint
          SP-13000, 7" Lilli, Opus 120, 120GB SATA, Holux GR-213, Headrest LCDs

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          • #6
            DVI splitter

            Because of the "digital-ness" of DVI these splitters are a bit more complicated (read: expensive) than a regular "Y-cable" type deal.
            The cheapest I found was at shopperwiz.com via froogle search for $121.00

            I think it could be done cheaper though. The apple "dvi to svid/composite video adapter" is probably pretty simple. I imagine that it just grabs the video signals off of unused pins in the dvi port and it might short two other pins so the mac mini can "sense" that particular adapter is being used. You could figure this out with a meter if you had the adapter on hand and *possibly* grab those pins without obstructing the port (maybe from inside the mini).

            Alternatively, and decidedly less involved and risky, would be to use the included adapter to get to a vga signal. Then using one of these (http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=164214&s=1) to split the signal - one for the main high quality screen. And finally one of these (http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=294481&s=1) to convert the remaining vga line to composite/svideo for your cheaper lcd monitor.

            I hope this helps
            walky_talky20
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            • #7
              only downside to a mini is its not set up to run dual screens is it?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by spdfrek
                only downside to a mini is its not set up to run dual screens is it?
                Stereo sound only. No 5.1 channel audio.
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                • #9
                  vga problems

                  And some have noticed brightness problems (dim output) when using *some* dvi-vga adapters with *some* monitors. Others have no problems. Not sure where this stands now.
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                  • #10
                    Walky_Talky20:
                    That second product looks like a simple scan converter. If it is, don't they usually have a VGA pass-through for the main monitor? I'm thinking that may be the best way to go for me so far.
                    Mike

                    1998 Volvo V70 R AWD
                    2.3L Turbo @ 17psi, 20% Tint
                    SP-13000, 7" Lilli, Opus 120, 120GB SATA, Holux GR-213, Headrest LCDs

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                    • #11
                      scan converter

                      Yeah you are right. Didn't think about that. I always thought those converters were cheaper than $50 or $60 until i looked up prices. Silly that Apple didn't make that darn s-vid out separate from the dvi for simultaneous display(mirror). Even an iBook will do that.
                      ** Denotes an "in car" post
                      In-Car posts made from passenger seat - Be safe, Don't Post and Drive.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by red green
                        edit: Wait a minute - are you sure that will split DVI? It looks like it's only for certain Matrox cards... maybe we can find out which splitters like this will work with the Mac Mini?
                        Doh! Looks like I didn't read it carefully enough. I'd go with the DVI-VGA and then split the signal and convert. Sounds like that "complex chain of adaptors" you were talking about.
                        Originally posted by ghettocruzer
                        I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
                        Want to:
                        -Find out about the new iBug iPad install?
                        -Find out about carPC's in just 5 minutes? View the Car PC 101 video

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by skeeter007
                          Stereo sound only. No 5.1 channel audio.
                          say huh?

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                          • #14
                            Actually most computers do not have 5.1 capabilities out of the box. You have many choices here. You can use USB to Optical converter, then use a car amplifier that uses optical input. You can also use a 5.1 processor such as the Griffin FireWave http://www.griffintechnology.com/pro...wave/index.php

                            Unless you have G5 Power PC which comes with Optical out or a gaming unit, that come with 5.1 sound card, youre not gonna have 5.1.

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                            • #15
                              i guess i just assumed most people would get a fire or usb audio interface for doing this...ah wells

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