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    I've agreed to help BenjaminS with some of the CCarProject, including gathering user input for the way files should be organized in the interface.

    We need your input to the following questions:

    1. How do you organize your video files? And perhaps more importantly, how would you like to have them organized in the CCarProject?

    Think about the information fields that you think would be useful to have. For example: Title, Actors, Genre, etc... Would you want to have playlists, a library, a certain type of naming convention, etc?

    2. What formats should the application be able to play?

    Don't list every single format you can think of but rather formats you think are likely to be required for playback of your movies.
    what formats should i focus on.

    3. Are there *open source* players we should look at incorporating into the project?

    Post your suggestions here and give them a reasonable amount of thought. Changing the database format once it has been incorporated could be painful as far as migrating from one version to the next.

    Here's the input we've received so far. Edit: Added suggestion for favs/recently played.
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    Originally posted by ghettocruzer
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  • #2
    I would like the search to be similar to that of iTunes. That being that a small DVD case would show what the movie is (these are easy to grab from Amazon, etc) or maybe by default, a random (or user chosen) Image would appear it this place that again could be replaced by the user.

    I might be different from most people, but I pretty much would just need to search by title. The movies or video I have in my car is generally pretty straight forward, so searching by actor is not all that important. Genere might be nice.

    As for which formats, I encode all my DVD's with Handbrake. So I prefer .mov, .mp4, and also (if possible) h.264.

    I play most of my movies with QuickTime, but VLC has many advantages too.

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    • #3
      well, i used to have all my music-videos in the car in multiplexed .mpg (mpeg-1/2), .m2v (mpeg-2), and seldom in .mov - that's all.

      the vids are simply sorted by singer, and yes, a/(several) saveable playlist/(s) (repeat all, shuffle, that stuff) would be cool.
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      • #4
        MPlayer.

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        • #5
          MPLAYER or VLC are a MUST!!
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          • #6
            VLC is a must, but if you check out Flip4Mac, you can now use WMV in quicktime...

            3ivx is a DEFINITE MUST

            I use
            Mpeg 1 (.mpg)
            quicktime 7 (.mov)
            Windoze Media (.wmv)
            Divx (.avi/.divx)

            I dont believe you need anything else truly. MPEG2 (.m2v) is useless in QT it plays and loads horribly. Having an mpeg2 file is just the intermediary before muxing a DVD, otherwise why do you have it? I dont see the use for, but VLC handles it nicely. MP4 is coming along nicely, and again thats in "core video".

            I dont understand "core video: 100% but doesnt this make your job easier, all one needs is the proper codecs in their library/quicktime/ folder... which would give you h.264 and everything else. Right? you dont need to incorporate things that the OS already does for you in SDK.

            As for file naming, i got the route of "artist - song title" or "Movie Title - release year (if you need it)"
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            • #7
              i second mp4 play back don't care much about mplayer and others. if you could create an easy touch screen control that dissapears much like the standard controls in the dvd player. that would be great. keep up the awesome work guys. what language are ya'll building in?

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              • #8
                I'm sure I'm a minority here, but all I really would need is an easy way to launch QuickTime Player for my movies. So really just a playlist sorted by title.

                Codecs I use are .mp4 and I've tried H.264, but I think H.264 is too much for my little G3 500 I'll use in the car. I also have some older .avi's, so that too I guess.

                Overall though, I'd lean toward letting QuickTime handle the playback...seems like it does a pretty good job of handling most file types. But I don't really know that much about video stuff.
                Thanks,

                Joe

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bugbyte
                  1. How do you organize your video files? And perhaps more importantly, how would you like to have them organized in the CCarProject?
                  I think you should keep the interface simple. Things like searching for actor or genre seems not important to me. Keep in mind that is is a carcomputer, and no a home theatre. Something like the musicplayer part would be nice.

                  Keep it simple!

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                  • #10
                    Original post updated with inputs so far.
                    Originally posted by ghettocruzer
                    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
                    Want to:
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                    • #11
                      maybe you can put like a favorites or recently played sort.. I really like that on iTunes

                      ::JP
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                      • #12
                        Does anyone know if there is an IMDB API? That would be immensely cool, just have the software sync up the metadata about the file and load it in a small db.

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                        • #13
                          Thought I should give everyone a formal update,

                          I am not dead neither is the project, ha. Sorry I have not been to active on the forums or answering emails, been busy working my *** off on this :P. I am happy to report that loading everything into a database works beautifully, although its more complicated, I am a willing to handle the additional work that is involved. So far i have most of the music part of the database mapped out, along with the required information tables, such as default icons, file types, etc etc. As for the data providers they are turning out to be, err interesting, ha. Its not the fact that they are hard to program, its the fact that I have to start making changes to the control layer, which is proving to be quite time consuming. I also started implementing a formal model, each class has a initWithRow, initializer so that I can pass a database row to it and it populates it self. I have also added media types classes and media player classes. When a media type gets inited it queries the type and then creates the respected player object. This way we can have numerous player types and they can all be used under a common superclass.

                          Sorry I have not been able to put out my nightly builds. I am basically rewriting most of it to conform to the defined architecture. I took to many shortcuts and its leading to a few dead ends. Now I have very clear and defined path of execution so development should go smoothly, but it just may take some time.

                          As for the video part.

                          All the requested features, disappearing touch control, repeat, shuffle, favorites or recent, title, year, singer, actor, all that fun stuff is no problem. In fact I will probably end up putting in a lot more that most people use. Just so you have it :P

                          Now codecs and players is the fun part. I have been digging through VLC and MPlayer and i must say, damn. Those are some refined pieces of software. Its going to take me a loooong time to port those to this application. MPlayer would be a little easier since MPlayerOSX is just a command line front end, and the window is just a carbon window that MPlayer generates, but i would need to add a few command line options to make sure the window is positioned right and at proper level.

                          There is a slight issue with both of them though, currently there is a law suit going around about patent violations. So i really want to wait to see how that turns out before committing to either. I don't want to get fooked in the long run over source code. I know that may seem silly to some people, but if things go the wrong way in the courts, it could blow up to a huge mess that I don't want anything to do with.

                          So for the moment, due to its sheer simplicity I am going to implement quicktime. It supports most of those codecs, eccept wmv, avi is a little shaky, m2v i don't know, and don't know about 3ivx. But the rest of those are supported and do work well. Its quite easy to get up and running and I should have it in there in a few releases. I say a few releases because there are many things that need to be added, like the ability to add media to the system and so on and so forth.


                          I herd someone mention the IMDB, that shouldn't be to hard to implement, but it leaves me with another idea. Since this will be skinable ( i swear i will get to it :P) and all that fun stuff I am thinking of making a desktop version so that you can organize all your media from the comforts of home, and then hit the sync button from your car and everything is they way you made it from home. :P

                          Well i'm am going to dive back into the code again. Keep the ideas and input coming.

                          Thank You all for your time.
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                          • #14
                            I am all about genres. I think it would be awesome if you could incorporate that as an organizational feature. And not just movie genres, but music video genres. If it could be broken into types of video, like movie, music, porn, whatever else people want, (maybe make it customizable?) and then after that further subcategories, like action and drama for movies, and rock and rap for videos, etc. It would be great to be able to do the same with the albums as well.
                            I guess this would be best if the buttons (categories) were customizable, and then we could assign the files to genres??? I don't know, just throwing it out there. Thanks for the great work so far!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shizzle
                              I am all about genres. I think it would be awesome if you could incorporate that as an organizational feature. And not just movie genres, but music video genres. If it could be broken into types of video, like movie, music, porn, whatever else people want, (maybe make it customizable?) and then after that further subcategories, like action and drama for movies, and rock and rap for videos, etc. It would be great to be able to do the same with the albums as well.
                              I guess this would be best if the buttons (categories) were customizable, and then we could assign the files to genres??? I don't know, just throwing it out there. Thanks for the great work so far!
                              Hmmm that a pretty wild idea, a collection of a collection of a collection of a collection, hmmm have to think about how to write that correctly. But i like it, it could lead to a whole new idea of orginizing your porn, *cough* I mean adult educational entertainment.

                              Question where is everyone getting these music videos from, i feel like i missed something. Well back to the code.
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