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  • Possible to run Windows Mobile 5 or 6 on a Mini-ITX Mobo?

    I am wondering if anyone knows if its possible to run Win Mobile 5 or 6 on a standard Mini-ITX mobo (one i'm interested in is the Via M10000)..

    Reason i ask is it would allow quicker boot process, (maybe able to hibernate like a pocket PC?)

    And the main reason is all the decent GPS software is available on PPC and basically none on WinXP so it would make it easy to setup the GPS software...

    Any ideas?

  • #2
    do a little more serch

    there's no way to run windows mobile on a pc based hardware
    you can emulate it WITHIN windows, but not run it as operational system

    there's a lot of ways of speeding up the boot time (there's a sub forum just for it)
    and yeah, there's lot's of good navigation soft too (even destinator if that's what you mean)

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    • #3
      You should search yourself.

      Windows Mobile... which is built from Windows CE can be run on x86 PC hardware, however, Windows CE is built hardware specific for each application and isn't available like WinXP or Vista for you to just install. You have to buy the Windows Embedded dev kit for $1,000 and build a configuration for your hardware platform. Hope for a board support kit from the mobo maker (Via has them for their boards), because you might be writing your own drivers otherwise.

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      • #4
        this is true. I've looked into writing a front end using CE, but it's not a practical generic solution. There are apps out there that will write generic drivers for you, but you're looking at third party dev kits which are pricier than the MS ones, since they make it a bit easier for you.

        I guess the answer to the question is it is possible but not practically
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        • #5
          Originally posted by jmbickham View Post
          You should search yourself.

          Windows Mobile... which is built from Windows CE can be run on x86 PC hardware, however, Windows CE is built hardware specific for each application and isn't available like WinXP or Vista for you to just install. You have to buy the Windows Embedded dev kit for $1,000 and build a configuration for your hardware platform. Hope for a board support kit from the mobo maker (Via has them for their boards), because you might be writing your own drivers otherwise.
          WinCE and Windows Embedded are two different things. You can download the development kit for free (either one) but any device you "build" will have to be licensed within a certain time frame (120 Days?) or it will stop working. The development application for Window CE is called "Platform Builder". You can build a specific device onto a Pocket PC or an X86 PC. They will be different though. Most commercial software that was written for a Pocket PC won't run on an X86 platform without some serious trickery. Same goes for drivers needed to run Pocket PC devices, most are not written for X86 platform.

          I wanted to use WinCE for my CarPC when I first got started and came to the conclusion that it wasn't practical.
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          • #6
            that's wath i meant when i said he can't have it as OS
            guess nobody wanna recompile a OS and all it's apps for a new plataform just to get a carpc working

            if you got the time and code you can recompile anithing to any plataform. but guess it does not worth the time and work

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            • #7
              there is a linux project however, and that's sort of a compiled-for-carpc project. can't recall what it's called, but it's on here. ice or something
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              • #8
                Windows OSXP/VISTA)
                Runs all your apps
                is a "real" pc
                slower boot times
                can become unstable

                Windows CE/Mobile:
                Need "mobile" versions of apps
                not really considered a pc because of above statement
                faster boot times (generally speaking)
                more stable
                higher cost

                Windows Embeded:
                Runs all your apps (maybe)
                is a segemented version of windows xp pro
                you can leave out any part of windows xp to make it smaller/boot faster, but then apps that require that part wont run (ie media player, internet explorer) wont work.
                All your "normal" xp compatable drivers will work


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                • #9
                  Windows Embedded:

                  It's a bloody pain I tried it and when drivers go bad, they go really bad. Things like multiuser being taken out mean that some s/w that is programmed to rely on this doesn't work. Such software was the bluetooth drivers I used, and all sorts of other stuff just didn't work properly. Something to be aware of should you want to try it out.
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                  • #10
                    there's no where to run

                    you can rip off XP (or win98) to fit your own particular needs, or work with the full system (till you find what you REALLY need)

                    guess the full system is the way to go. specially on a project start. and let the downsizing to the tweakin before

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                    • #11
                      Its just that for us Aussie's the only up to date option we have for GPS is Centrafuse which has Destinator 6... There is no other options other than MapMokeny and FreeDrive which are both based on the out of date Destinator 3...

                      For PPCs we have TomTom, Destinator, and many others which i can't think of right atm, but there is plenty...

                      I could run the GPS software on my PPC and use my carputer just for media... but i don't want that... i want a complete all in one solution... GPS, media all in one on the same screen...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by birdie View Post
                        Its just that for us Aussie's the only up to date option we have for GPS is Centrafuse which has Destinator 6... There is no other options other than MapMokeny and FreeDrive which are both based on the out of date Destinator 3...

                        For PPCs we have TomTom, Destinator, and many others which i can't think of right atm, but there is plenty...

                        I could run the GPS software on my PPC and use my carputer just for media... but i don't want that... i want a complete all in one solution... GPS, media all in one on the same screen...
                        Why not make the "all in one solution" your PPC? That is what I plan to do.

                        The Axim for example had video and audio outputs, bluetooth and 802.11. Hook up a wireless harddrive and your good to go.

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                        • #13
                          you CAN run destinator 6 and it's maps on a pc desktop, laptop or carpc even without centrafuse

                          take a look at the how-to area of the digital-car.co.uk forums (register before)

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                          • #14
                            yes, it has been made to run in roadrunner too

                            you can also use an emulator, as per the tomtom how-to in my sig
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