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    So Ive been without a carpc for atleast half a year now and finally yesturday I bought a new Hard drive, Motherboard and memory... Well i started putting everything together tonight and ran into a little problem. The new motherboard and hard drive is sata. while my old home pc is the older kind of connection. reason im saying this is because the way i used to put windows on a new hard drive was connect the carpc motherboard and hard drive to my desktop power supply and install it that way.

    So question is: Now that all my new stuff is sata how do I got about putting windows on the new hard drive? Thanks!

  • #2
    http://www.custompcblog.com/troubles...ata-hard-drive

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    • #3
      Since you have all new hardware, do a fresh installation.
      You'll be better off.
      Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
      How about the Wiki?



      Under normal circumstances, a signature would go here.

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      • #4
        What kind of DC-DC PSU do you use?

        With my M2 I just connect the power in and remote in upto a 12v rail from a standard ATX PSU.

        Very easy to set up, let us know if you need more info.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
          Since you have all new hardware, do a fresh installation.
          You'll be better off.
          Thats exactly what I want to do, Just dont know how to power the hard drive since I dont have a SATA on my Desktop

          Originally posted by FirstAid View Post
          What kind of DC-DC PSU do you use?

          With my M2 I just connect the power in and remote in upto a 12v rail from a standard ATX PSU.

          Very easy to set up, let us know if you need more info.
          Yes Please let me know how your doing this. Thanks! Oh and I use a m2-atx

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          • #6
            Wow, are all these steps really necessary? What if you donít have a floppy drive?? Who now a days has one of those? From what I always thought, you just plug in the hard drive, throw the windows CD in the drive and its boots from the windows CD to install the operating system?

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            • #7
              Go to ebay and purchase one of these...

              http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

              It allows you to hook your sata laptop hard drive to your desktop like a regular hard drive. Then install windows on it as usual. Once you are finished with the install, transfer your hard drive to your Car PC. The NTDLR file will be missing, but easily fixed using fixboot using recovery console...Thats how I did mine!!!!

              Or in your case you could use this option to hook you cdrom to you new mobo via usb...

              http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-to-IDE-S...d=p3286.c0.m14

              This way(assuming you don't have a cdrom in you Car PC setup) you can use your desktop PC cdrom. Then everything would work without doing anything else after Windows is installed. Hope these options help!!!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by djurchicprelude View Post
                Wow, are all these steps really necessary? What if you donít have a floppy drive?? Who now a days has one of those? From what I always thought, you just plug in the hard drive, throw the windows CD in the drive and its boots from the windows CD to install the operating system?
                You're correct. You can just boot from the CD and install to the hard drive..
                And that's what you should do, especially since you are going to all new (and different, I assume) hardware.
                Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
                How about the Wiki?



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                • #9
                  Did a little more searching on ebay for you...Here is your power solution....

                  http://cgi.ebay.com/2-IDE-to-Serial-...d=p3286.c0.m14

                  This should be all you need to do your install like you are accustomed to with no extra work....What do you think?
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                  • #10
                    Buy the adapter as locs4dayz above me suggested. It's cheaper to buy the power adapter (4pin molex to serial ATA) than it is to get a new power supply.

                    If you are installing Windows XP you will need the manufacturer's driver for your specific motherboard RAID chipset; aka SATA DRIVERS.

                    There are other options as a work around, one of them is to install Windows Vista and not worry about those drivers because the DVD already has them preloaded.

                    Don't fret, you can slipstream said SATA drivers using NLite onto a revised Windows XP installation CD. With XP, you are required to have a floppy drive on hand to install SATA hard disk drivers prior to the actual WindowsXP installation.

                    Slipstreaming is a way of integrating these specific drivers together into the installation so that you don't need to buy a floppy drive. However, if you do have a floppy drive, boot from the XP CD, and Press F6 to install the SATA (.inf driver file) that you just downloaded to a floppy disk, and proceed with the on screen instructions.


                    Nlite download- program used to integrate your drivers onto a REVISED XP installation CD.
                    http://www.nliteos.com/download.html

                    Slipstream instruction guide:
                    http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html


                    Also, as an alternative, if your new motherboard has both of the SATA and IDE interface connectors. Install a fresh copy of Windows XP on to the old IDE drive, followed by the SATA drivers, and then install Western Digital's DataLife hard drive software.

                    After you're done with that, Plug in the new SATA hard drive and transfer XP to it using the DataLife program. Then disconnect the IDE drive, and upon reboot, change your target boot device to the SATA hard disk and you're set!

                    Download the Windows version of DataLife here:

                    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=612&sid=3〈=en
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                    • #11
                      I don't recall installing any raid drivers when I did mine dMand... How would that affect performance? My system works, but its still a little buggy... Enough to irritate me!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by djurchicprelude View Post
                        Thats exactly what I want to do, Just dont know how to power the hard drive since I dont have a SATA on my Desktop



                        Yes Please let me know how your doing this. Thanks! Oh and I use a m2-atx

                        First you need to purchase one of these adaptors for a dollar, this way you don't need to cut any wires on your atx power supply. You need to cut the yellow wire and the black wire next to it on the adaptor, these are your 12v and 0v rails. Connect the power in and remote turn on of your M2 to the yellow and the ground of your M2 to the black cable.
                        Once you have done this and made sure you have properly insulated the joints you made with insulating tape or something similar to ensure you don't shock yourself/fry your carputer you can connect this adaptor to a spare molex socket in your desktop PC.
                        Switch on your desktop PC and your carputer will come to life 5 seconds later.

                        Now installing sata drivers may well be your next hurdle although I have found some combinations of certain motherboards and certains versions of XP don't need any drivers from a floppy or slipstreamed cd/dvd. I'll leave the sata installation part to somebody else to help you with as slipstreaming takes some time and patience, usb floppy drives are quite a cheap and easy solution though.

                        I'll post pics tomorrow if you like?


                        Good luck.

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                        • #13
                          aight guys thanks for all the help!! What I ended doing was borrowing my friends dekstop pc with SATA and used his power supply and cd drive... poped in the windows cd and everything worked out great.

                          Thanks again for the help!

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