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    and comparison.. + maybe wish list?
    So im trying to figure out which of the front ends support indipendent monitor assignments and i realized, i've basically got to sort through the changelog for most of em, or read between the lines on the commercial ones.

    so my first thought was of course search around, see if someone else already asked, Do i search for "fe" or "front end" monitor assignment? blech.. ok.. no, I'm just going to ask.. well, ok, but then what does the next guy search for? oo tags, hey, let's do something useful.

    I know there are more, but keeping my notes in my brain causes me to be lazy. ha ha
    someone please please help me flesh this out more.
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    Is this table in the wiki?

    LinuxICE uses the bluez stack for bluetooth, nGhost for media playback(mplayer/phonon powered). It is ipod compatible (reads the mp3 files from the drive). Zune also if it shows up as a normal drive like the ipod does. File syncing is handled by a proximity rsync setting. GPS via Navit. OBDII via nCarInfo and obdgpslogger. App store, sure! We have a free app repository. Multiple monitors yes, but you'll have to hack to get it setup.

    EDIT: I found a stub in the wiki for a frontend comparison.

    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...on&redirect=no

    I had created a fancy table with info in the old wiki, i don't know what happened to it though .
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    • #3
      Originally posted by kev000 View Post
      Is this table in the wiki?
      Yes, but it didn't show up in a search, and it's actually empty (unless i missed something)
      maybe we should move this thataway and expand over there

      Originally posted by kev000 View Post
      LinuxICE uses the bluez stack for bluetooth, nGhost for media playback(mplayer/phonon powered). It is ipod compatible (reads the mp3 files from the drive). File syncing is handled by a proximity rsync setting. GPS via Navit. OBDII via nCarInfo and obdgpslogger. Multiple monitors yes, but you'll have to hack to get it setup.
      updated!
      Originally posted by kev000 View Post
      Zune also if it shows up as a normal drive like the ipod does.
      far from an ipod specialist, but i believe you have to have your ipod/zune hacked to show up like that.
      Originally posted by kev000 View Post
      App store, sure! We have a free app repository.
      is it integrated into the fe, or a web page you should probably know about if you've installed it? that's why i left it as is.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by chronoglass View Post
        far from an ipod specialist, but i believe you have to have your ipod/zune hacked to show up like that.
        The last iPod I had (4g) showed up in windows and Linux as a removable drive without any hacking. I assume newer iPods are the same. There are 2 methods used to read media info from the ipod, 1) a raw filescan + ID3 tag read, and 2) read the ipod xml database which is what itunes uses. The generic solution is #1 which is identical to the method nGhost would use to view songs on any usb stick.

        is it integrated into the fe, or a web page you should probably know about if you've installed it? that's why i left it as is.
        There is an app called synaptic which lets you install and uninstall apps. This is not ideal for the car but it works and it's available now. We will have an actual UI for the app store in the future.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by kev000 View Post
          The last iPod I had (4g) showed up in windows and Linux as a removable drive without any hacking. I assume newer iPods are the same. There are 2 methods used to read media info from the ipod, 1) a raw filescan + ID3 tag read, and 2) read the ipod xml database which is what itunes uses. The generic solution is #1 which is identical to the method nGhost would use to view songs on any usb stick.
          hmm, that'd be pretty nice if they finally decided to be real devices.. i know my iphone 3gs only shows the drive portion for the images directory, but the iphones are slightly more stupid that the real thing.

          Originally posted by kev000 View Post
          There is an app called synaptic which lets you install and uninstall apps. This is not ideal for the car but it works and it's available now. We will have an actual UI for the app store in the future.
          will it allow apps to be installed that the user cannot interact with? like say you find a game and install it, does it automatically put the icons in the FE and make it useable, or is it just the package delivery system for linux that does 0 checking past "did it run?"
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          • #6
            Originally posted by chronoglass View Post
            hmm, that'd be pretty nice if they finally decided to be real devices.. i know my iphone 3gs only shows the drive portion for the images directory, but the iphones are slightly more stupid that the real thing.
            Now that you mention that, IIRC, my ipod had an option to allow it to show up as a removable drive? From there I could access the folder that contained all the music (which i think was hidden on windows by default).

            will it allow apps to be installed that the user cannot interact with? like say you find a game and install it, does it automatically put the icons in the FE and make it useable, or is it just the package delivery system for linux that does 0 checking past "did it run?"
            Yes, if you install a game, it'll show up in Apps->Games in the frontend when you reboot.
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            • #7
              ok, now.. why doesn't the table work the same in the wiki as in the msg board?! ha ha ha
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              • #8
                CF3 does have FB support. I wrote a plugin for it.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
                  CF3 does have FB support. I wrote a plugin for it.
                  sweet, linkage?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by chronoglass View Post
                    sweet, linkage?
                    http://forums.fluxmedia.net/plugin-d...html#post57216
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                    • #11
                      updated
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                      • #12
                        Independent monitor assignment? Thats one of the core features of openMobile....we support up to 99 independent monitors and 99 independent sound cards (of course hardware limitations will probably limit that to around 4 for a dual core or 8 for a quad core)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by justchat_1 View Post
                          Independent monitor assignment? Thats one of the core features of openMobile....we support up to 99 independent monitors and 99 independent sound cards (of course hardware limitations will probably limit that to around 4 for a dual core or 8 for a quad core)
                          specifically for me i want a way, in the software to say when the FE starts up screen 1 (in front) gets the music/dvd/navi software menu

                          the 2 in the back get dvd/headphone options/mame options

                          then of course the dream setup would be within mame if 2 players are selected the screens "mirror" and if 1 player is selected a second mame instance is creted for screen #2 and screen #3 (but i know THAT is going to take a bit more work on my part)

                          So i'll start fleshing out openmobile in there next and of course feel free to correct me
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                          • #14
                            A few updates for your list (since you asked):
                            * Yup CF is limited to 2 monitors (and im pretty sure RR is too)
                            * Not sure where you get "hack" from...RR has a plugin (aka not a hack) for almost every media player
                            * Yup RR does support media from USB
                            * LinuxICE (which should really be nGhost since thats what your comparing) doesn't support iTunes but does support file syncing (no hack)
                            * Streetdeck has no bluetooth even with a hack (hardware for it doesn't exist) but is the only FE with integrated navigation so def not a hack (pretty much the opposite)
                            * Streetdeck uses WMP and supports iTunes (with a hack). It also has built in OBDII.
                            * Streetdeck does not support multiple monitors or the FB
                            * Streetdeck, OpenMobile and LinuxICE have an app store equivalent (I happen to host the first two).
                            * Not sure about CF's music backend though
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                            • #15
                              thanks, updated with that info!

                              maybe i should clarify "app store"
                              my definition is the plug and play quick and easy 2 way communication style app store.
                              in the way that in the iphone app store you can't buy programs that won't work on your phone, same with android, you can only get apps that will work.

                              they are integrated into the UI so you click an icon, and search the list (no "hope you rtfm and searched the intartubes" as the only way to know it's there) speaking of which, mind pointing me there so i can have that included as well?

                              you mention im only talking about nghost. I'm trying to make sure I cover as much as i can so I included the linuxice stuff in there from Kev, Kev would you be able to help me with the differences between the two?

                              oh and media from usb, maybe I should include "plug and pray" it should react just like i threw a cd in the stereo and just "become" an available source in whatever media screen im on. no folder navigation to get to it I mean.
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