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    Has anyone out there attemped to do a xp lite type of install. I was wondering if people know of a good site, or info on booting without the shell? Like a system.ini in a windows 98 environment?

    Changing the logo.sys boot screen like 98?

    Stripping out ie6 and other stuff we don't need?

    Bj
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    "The solution to one problem is only the beginning of another"

  • #2
    I can't tell you much about a minimal install, but I doubt that you can do much as far as removing IE goes. Each newer version of Windows seems to become more dependant on using IE as the core component in navigating the machine.

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    • #3
      you can try tweakxp.com
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      • #4
        You really can't do much. Hacking the boot logos is easy (relatively speaking), but I cut the services that winxp needs to run down to a bare minimum, and it doesn't boot any noticibly faster with them disabled. And the best that MS can do in reguards to IE6 (court setlement) is make something else the default browser. If you want a reeeeely small install of xp, you'll have to aquire XP embedded from Microsoft.
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        • #5
          Yeah, it seems that for really small installs and "embedded like" Pc's the best option is Linux.

          It's a shame that the software available for Linux is less than in windows and the drivers for the hardware too, making it a not viable option as OS for many of us
          I'll take donations.

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          • #6
            Thats what I thought. I'll just have to use 98, as my pci dlink wireless card wont run in windows 95 - which I got down to 35MB!
            BjBlaster! Car MP3 & Carputer!
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            "The solution to one problem is only the beginning of another"

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            • #7
              the solution for XP lite from microsoft is of course "XP embedded"..... the 98lite guys (which are from OZ btw) are still working on a 2000/XP lite according to their website, altho thats been the case for over 6 months now... so dont hold your breath!

              personally im sticking to w98. I would never again chuck it on a desktop PC, but for a mp3car style OS thats not getting software installed/deinstalled/etc.... there is nothing wrong with it....
              Project - GAME OVER :(

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bj
                Thats what I thought. I'll just have to use 98, as my pci dlink wireless card wont run in windows 95 - which I got down to 35MB!
                I got Win98 down to 37mb using an 98lite install, then hacking out the rest by hand. The 9x systems are by far the easiest to shrink. I binned my XP Embedded disc months ago, even though I got it down to 200mb, it still didint boot any quicker.
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                • #9
                  I am running Win XP on my unit. I have killed services that I did not need and have uninstalled some of the MS software. At 1st I wanted to take the browers out. I got very close. The problem is that there are a lot of apps that use it. My machine takes more time to post than it does to boot. If you want more info ask and I will get it to you. I also know most of the files that you can remove to make a smaller footprint.
                  Asok
                  2000 Grand Prix GTP
                  667 mHz PC | 512 PC 700 | DVD | ATI All-In-Wonder | 100 Gig HD | 7" LCD

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                  • #10
                    I'm definitely interested... if you could send that info my way.. either here, or [email protected]

                    Originally posted by Asok
                    I am running Win XP on my unit. I have killed services that I did not need and have uninstalled some of the MS software. At 1st I wanted to take the browers out. I got very close. The problem is that there are a lot of apps that use it. My machine takes more time to post than it does to boot. If you want more info ask and I will get it to you. I also know most of the files that you can remove to make a smaller footprint.
                    Asok
                    VIA EPIA 533 MHz
                    256 MB RAM
                    7" Lilliput VGA Touchscreen
                    20 gig HD
                    Media Engine 2.1.4
                    GPS - Earthmate/SA2004
                    802.11b Connectivity

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                    • #11
                      Could i please have a copy of that information as well. [email protected]

                      Thanks, AE.

                      Originally posted by Asok
                      I am running Win XP on my unit. I have killed services that I did not need and have uninstalled some of the MS software. At 1st I wanted to take the browers out. I got very close. The problem is that there are a lot of apps that use it. My machine takes more time to post than it does to boot. If you want more info ask and I will get it to you. I also know most of the files that you can remove to make a smaller footprint.
                      Asok
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                      • #12
                        me too. [email protected] I will get the embedded in a few day as well. I have to run XP since the vid out drivers for my espresso PC is really slow to play divx while on XP, it's prefect.

                        Otherwise, I'd go 98lite in a heart beat.
                        - Lwin M. Maung
                        If it's stuck, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway

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                        • #13
                          This is what I have done. If you kill your machine I am sorry and do not get mad at me! Use at your own RISK!!!

                          The 1st thing I did was backup my machine with Ghost or Drive Image. I lost track of how many times I killed it. Also keep a log of what worked and what did not. I have now almost filled a notebook.

                          Here is what I did. Fresh install of XP Pro then put the latest SP on it.

                          I downloaded and installed Atomic XP http://members.optushome.com.au/bio2000/atomicXP2.zip

                          I started here http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm to see what the different services are. Then I turned off items that I did not need and some that I have installed.

                          I also downloaded http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml That way I can see what else is starting.

                          You may be able to use XPLite when it comes out. Just go to
                          http://www.litepc.com

                          For more tweaking I used http://www.xteq.com/ It is nice to help in getting that start menu cut down and has lots of other great stuff.

                          Stuff to get rid of
                          Go to C:\windows\inf and look for a file called sysoc.inf and open it. Go to EDIT -> REPLACE and replace all the ,HIDE with just ,

                          Go to Add/Remove programs then Add/Remove Windows Components. Remove only what you know you do not need. Play with removing some of the others. It may make things to stop working.

                          I removed all the .hlp and the .chm files from c:\windows about 49 meg

                          Remove the uninstall of patchs and updates C:\windows\$NtUninstall******

                          Then I deleted "C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386\driver.cab" About 75 meg

                          Keep the "C:\windows\temp" and "C:\Documents and Settings\current user\Local Settings\Temp" clean

                          Odds and ends

                          Turn off System Restore.
                          Turn off the "Pretty" junk like rolling windows

                          IE
                          At one time I had almost killed IE and jumped for joy but there where some problems. I save less than 1 meg. Big deal! Also, some apps require IE to run.

                          I will say this one last time. Make sure you have backed up your machine and take lots of notes on what you have done. I had two images. One with no changes and one with my currect settings. Last but not least, write down what changes you have made!!!

                          I did not free up a lot of hard drive space but, I did cut down the boot time. It now takes long for the machine to post then it does to boot.

                          I think I am done.
                          Later,
                          Asok
                          2000 Grand Prix GTP
                          667 mHz PC | 512 PC 700 | DVD | ATI All-In-Wonder | 100 Gig HD | 7" LCD

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                          • #14
                            You guys using XP Pro know about gpedit.msc right? Its the management console. Type that in from a command line and you will bring it up - there you can set just about any setting in XP Pro. I have not used it to trim boot time - as my carpouter is still in planning stages, but I thought I would throw that out there...

                            Notice I said XP PRO version.

                            cheers
                            Bryan
                            Car: 2000 Audi A4 Avant 1.8t
                            Carputer 2.0: removed. Back to stock.

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                            • #15
                              GPEDIT will allow config of lots of settings, but it doesn't skinny down the install size or boot time. It's a handy tool though.

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