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    Ok so I got everything installed in my car and im starting to rethink what I was going to do software wise. Ive been seeing a lot on this MeeGo OS for the car along with the other linux versions. And just wandering what peoples thought on which OS to go with and the pros and cons of each. Im wanting something that has the basic functions now (audio/video/gps/internet/radio/etc) and something that can be updraded later to include more advance features. The system Im using came with Win7 but I dont mind a little work to get things right

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    WinXP, while dated, has the best support and most will provide the most functionality.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    • #3
      try a bunch, pick the one you like best.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
        WinXP, while dated, has the best support and most will provide the most functionality.
        I have read win7 handles audio so much better and that is the most important feature to me. I am really not strong on the software side of this hobby so I rely alot on what I read here.

        Can you tell me what I would be giving up if I go to Win7 that would likely be useful because I have been starting to think about upgrading to W7 over the holidays. I really don't want to pay to "upgrade" to something that causes me more disappointments than improvements. Boot times are also, like everyone else, a high priority to me.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DarquePervert View Post
          WinXP, while dated, has the best support and most will provide the most functionality.
          Based on what?? I can't think of a single feature XP has that win7 doesn't....but I can think of at least 50 that win7 has and XP doesn't.

          win7 has vastly superior audio and video support to XP....so if you want quality and performance don't even consider XP (and its 16bit audio).

          On the Linux side...MeeGo IVI (the in car edition) is barely an alpha....you would be better off with Ubuntu or LinuxICE if you want to go with windows.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by PhilG View Post
            I have read win7 handles audio so much better and that is the most important feature to me. I am really not strong on the software side of this hobby so I rely alot on what I read here.

            Can you tell me what I would be giving up if I go to Win7 that would likely be useful because I have been starting to think about upgrading to W7 over the holidays. I really don't want to pay to "upgrade" to something that causes me more disappointments than improvements. Boot times are also, like everyone else, a high priority to me.
            Thanks
            Getting windows to boot fast is a bit more difficult compared to the many linux distros that already boot fast out of the box. Windows 7 while better than vista probably still boots slower than XP. But you can always hibernate/hybrid-sleep if you really can't live without windows.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by tripzero View Post
              Getting windows to boot fast is a bit more difficult compared to the many linux distros that already boot fast out of the box.
              In dozens of tests Ubuntu usually boots as fast or slower then win7. Only specially optimized distros have been shown to boot faster... and those distros are still slower then win7 embedded (which is a special windows distro in a sense). Whichever route you go....boot speed is pretty proportional to the amount of work your willing to put in to reduce it.

              Originally posted by tripzero View Post
              Windows 7 while better than vista probably still boots slower than XP.
              Only on single core processors.....with multi-core processors win7 usually boots faster then XP because its designed to take advantage of them (along with modern instruction sets).

              Originally posted by tripzero View Post
              But you can always hibernate/hybrid-sleep if you really can't live without windows.
              Usually this is the best bet no matter which OS you choose (even linux).
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              • #8
                Originally posted by justchat_1 View Post
                In dozens of tests Ubuntu usually boots as fast or slower then win7. Only specially optimized distros have been shown to boot faster... and those distros are still slower then win7 embedded (which is a special windows distro in a sense). Whichever route you go....boot speed is pretty proportional to the amount of work your willing to put in to reduce it.
                hmm... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbXMZWTHY6c[/media]

                I think we already proved LinuxICE boots the fastest :P.

                Only on single core processors.....with multi-core processors win7 usually boots faster then XP because its designed to take advantage of them (along with modern instruction sets).

                Usually this is the best bet no matter which OS you choose (even linux).
                coldboot < hibernate < always on ftw
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                • #9
                  i agree that most things will work out of the box on XP especially for RR & CF for older devices like GPS and their associated apps. But when using SSD, Quad Core and 64Bit address with 4G Ram, you want to get the most out of these new hardware devices, so W7 , Ubuntu is the best option as an OS choice.

                  This Q has been asked a few times, but as this is a hobby / project, the Q should really be how much tinkering you want to do?

                  If you can get a stripped down version of W7 without the bloatware your 90% done, find all your device drivers and you have a winner. If i can do this with Linux, bonus and use that, but this is still about how much you want to do under the hood.


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                  • #10
                    If OpenMobile still being improved and skins appear more beautiful, for sure will change to ubuntu + OM ...

                    Centrafuse is a good application, but unfortunately stopped in time .. windows 7 is a great program, just need bigger and bigger for performance optimizations as customizations are possible in XP

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                    • #11
                      thanks for the imputs, I think ive decided with ubuntu and OM for the time being (until MeeGo gets better I think it has potential) now i just have to learn enough about linux to accomplish this

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tripzero View Post
                        Getting windows to boot fast is a bit more difficult compared to the many linux distros that already boot fast out of the box. Windows 7 while better than vista probably still boots slower than XP. But you can always hibernate/hybrid-sleep if you really can't live without windows.
                        Funny thing is, My current system, (Intel D945GLCF2 with 2GB and a crappy old Harddrive) cold boots about a third the time it takes to restore from hibernation/hybrid-sleep. So I've actually set my power button to shut down instead of sleep. Just need OM to support some sort of 'start where you left off' features, and I'll be all set. (computer turns on with my unlock from my key fob, so it's booted up before i get in).
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CraziFuzzy View Post
                          Funny thing is, My current system, (Intel D945GLCF2 with 2GB and a crappy old Harddrive) cold boots about a third the time it takes to restore from hibernation/hybrid-sleep. So I've actually set my power button to shut down instead of sleep. Just need OM to support some sort of 'start where you left off' features, and I'll be all set. (computer turns on with my unlock from my key fob, so it's booted up before i get in).
                          Each of the radios and players have a "Resume playback on startup" setting...but yea if you shutdown looking at the music screen its going to start back up at the main menu. Was that the part your talking about or something else that needs to go on the to do list?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tripzero View Post
                            hmm... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbXMZWTHY6c[/media]

                            I think we already proved LinuxICE boots the fastest :P.



                            coldboot < hibernate < always on ftw
                            That video is BS....Or they running it on a old a$$ pc. My son pc is a Amd 2500+ with 1g memory and a 60g hd running win7U...and boots up around 50sec to a min. My carpc before i put a ssd in was booting around 30-45sec. And it boots around 22sec now.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by soloxp View Post
                              That video is BS....Or they running it on a old a$$ pc. My son pc is a Amd 2500+ with 1g memory and a 60g hd running win7U...and boots up around 50sec to a min. My carpc before i put a ssd in was booting around 30-45sec. And it boots around 22sec now.
                              The AMD 2500+ still has more power than most atom boards. If you are putting your desktop operating system in your car, you deserve every bit of slow you get.
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