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  • XP Embedded & EPIA 800

    Do you think you would benefit from a tutorial on how to do an XPe image for the Via EPIA 800???

    Can easily be adapted to the others, I could even help with integrating Media Engine with it
    Car: About to change

    Player: VIA Eden, 256Mb RAM, Bootable from 64MB Compactflash, 40GB MP3 HD, IRMan, Wireless Keyboard, 5.6" In-dash TFT, 12v DC-DC, running Windows XP Embedded with Wireless LAN, Mobile Internet, GPS Sat Navigation.

    == Running MediaEngine for the front end whilst I build a front end in VB.NET, but may stick with ME 2.0 ==

  • #2
    I would love to see a tutorial on this!!

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    • #3
      I am interested, just concerned on how much money it will take to get a working (licensed) version of XPe that doesnt expire after 120 days.

      You can get a development copy that expires after 120 days for a few bucks, but I can't find any other information on XPe (as far price)

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      • #4
        This is rather simple actually, I've done it a couple of days ago.

        - You make the image following Ms instructions / tutorial
        ( you can download an Xpe support package from Via, so you only need to hit 'Build' )
        - Copy these files to your FAT or FAT32 formatted Epia system drive,
        - Run bootprep,
        - Reboot.

        For convenience, I have W98SE installed as well, to ease copying of the image over the network. The boot menu is used to select between W98 and WXPe on startup.

        You can create the bootmenu by modifying the boot.ini file.
        - Set the timeout to a reasonable value, eg 30 (for 30 seconds),
        - Add a line under [Operating Systems]: C:\="Windows 98",
        - Copy the backup file from bootprep (boot*.old) to bootsect.dos.

        BTW. You can separate the installs by using different directory names, I used XPeOS, XPeApps & XPeDocs. Don't get temped to place those dirs into a dedicated directory (like \XPE\WINDOWS etc). The bootloader does not accept that... took a while to find that out

        white bream
        working on a trilogy: CARGO - UNIGO - MERGO
        CARGO = the Car Computer
        Intel Celeron M, [P]SDC, uBlox GPS, GPRS, WLAN, Silabs FM, RDS, TMC,
        Dual-audio, Onecable TFT, Microsize: 45 x 108 x 168mm (1.8 x 4.3 x 6.6")

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        • #5
          i too would be interested

          i realize that it was just explained in short, but a full featured tutorial of every step would be nice, especailly for the lazy like my self
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          • #6
            what is my advantage going to be with using XPe?? how much faster are the boot times?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by unrealer33
              what is my advantage going to be with using XPe?? how much faster are the boot times?
              pretty much instant


              only problem is getting a license and an image to use
              2004 G35 Coupe project

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              • #8
                what are they tryin to charge for it? i saw on the MS site the development tools were $999, but the runtime lisences were not quoted.

                I know some MS employees, who get mad discounts on the regular products, such as XP pro ($30).. I'll check and see if i can come up with a lisence for XPe..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by unrealer33
                  what are they tryin to charge for it? i saw on the MS site the development tools were $999, but the runtime lisences were not quoted.

                  I know some MS employees, who get mad discounts on the regular products, such as XP pro ($30).. I'll check and see if i can come up with a lisence for XPe..
                  i talked to distributors
                  they quoted me 1000 for the dev kit and 100 for the individual licenses
                  2004 G35 Coupe project

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                  • #10
                    is the dev kit a required purchase?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by unrealer33
                      is the dev kit a required purchase?
                      no but afaik its required to get any use out of the OS
                      its what creates the custom images
                      2004 G35 Coupe project

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aoLhaTer
                        pretty much instant
                        Forget it. XPe uses exactly the same source base as XP professional, the only difference is that you can remove unused components.
                        When I installed a full build of XPe, the resulting boottime from hitting enter in the bootmenu till a normal arrow cursor, was about 45 seconds. This time can be archieved or improved with just about any OS.

                        white bream
                        working on a trilogy: CARGO - UNIGO - MERGO
                        CARGO = the Car Computer
                        Intel Celeron M, [P]SDC, uBlox GPS, GPRS, WLAN, Silabs FM, RDS, TMC,
                        Dual-audio, Onecable TFT, Microsize: 45 x 108 x 168mm (1.8 x 4.3 x 6.6")

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by henkbliek
                          Forget it. XPe uses exactly the same source base as XP professional, the only difference is that you can remove unused components.
                          When I installed a full build of XPe, the resulting boottime from hitting enter in the bootmenu till a normal arrow cursor, was about 45 seconds. This time can be archieved or improved with just about any OS.
                          i was told instant for uses in handheld PCs and such

                          45 seconds is long boot time even for full xp
                          2004 G35 Coupe project

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                          • #14
                            Now I built a working XPE image for a VIA EPIA M9000, and was able to get it up in 5 seconds.

                            My guess is NT Embedded would be even faster (if someone manages to get a hold on it).
                            There must be a reason why I am king of my castle.

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                            • #15
                              What are you using for your boot device? Compact FLASH or DoC?

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