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    Which OS would be the best carPC and home PC?

    I have a removable HD in my carPC and I like to use same OS for homepc and carpc so I can bring the HD to home to upgrade or fix without any hassel and also for the wireless net(I don't know if using different OS would be problem for wireless net.)

    A lot of people are talking about XP and I got excited at first, but I found out that my printer , CDRW, keyboard , and some other hardwares and softwares are not working un der XP I know it is only matter of time they come out with new drivers and softwares, but for now, XP is not for me.

    Which left me 2000 and Me (I don't really want to use 98) , both OS have more support than XP and still reliable (some what) But which one would be better ? and why?

    I'll be really appreciated if you can help me out with this.

  • #2
    I haven't had any experience with ME, but from what I've heard about it, it isn't all that great. Things may have changed since it came out and got updates, but I have used 2K and it's pretty stable and pretty nice.

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    • #3
      I went ahead and installed XP on both my home machine and my SV-24 - Despite reccommendations (especially from Dell) to avoid upgrading due to uncompatible peripherals... Amazingly enough, everything works and is recognized. Some of the items I just used the Win2k drivers for (the architectures of 2k and XP are the same) most of which were'nt "digitally signed" so it gave me a warning that it may not work, but it ended up working just fine...
      XP is a great upgrade - especially if you are still using Win9x or ME - they both bite as far as stability goes. AS a minimum I recommend 2k, but I recommend attempting the XP upgrade - surely you will have good luck like I have had...

      Jonathan
      JZ CarPC - 1998 Volvo C70
      Shuttle SV-24 Celery 400Mhz 128MB SDRAM 60GB HD DVD, 12.1" VGA TFT LCD, Sproggy/Mastero DC-DC ATX PSU, Mucha ATX shutdown controller, Co-Pilot GPS

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      • #4
        My experience with Windows XP. It does have some compatibility issues with Sound Blaster Lives and ATI Radeons. The Sound Blaster drivers for 2K/XP have a glitch that causes there to madass bass that blows out your speakers, BUT this has been fixed in the final version of the drivers and XP so if you use XP make sure you turn down your volume first and do a routine sound check process. (One pair of desktop speakers $30 down the hole) Also the Radeons just basically had horrible drivers for all of the Windows platorms. So just screw around with the Radeon drivers and XP and see what happens.

        XP also has some problems with USB/optical mouses. Sometimes they don't work but most of the time they do. (Amazingly, Microsoft Optical Explorer mouses have been reported to not work with Mircrosoft Windows XP...)

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        • #5
          "One pair of desktop speakers $30 down the hole"

          Man, send a bill to Microsoft support and a proper typed up report to a paper or two to warn people of this. That is just irrisponsible.
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          • #6
            (Amazingly, Microsoft Optical Explorer mouses have been reported to not work with Mircrosoft Windows XP...)
            I have one, it works.

            Man, send a bill to Microsoft support
            Oh, I didn't realize that it is Microsoft's responsibility to not only create the OS, but also every third party driver that needs to be used. Silly me, I thought that the people who actually wrote the drivers (in this case Creative Labs) should be the responsible ones. If I write a driver for Linux that ends up toasting your hard drive, are you going to go yell at Linus/Redhat/whoever for it?
            IN DEVELOPMENT -- '96 Mustang, lilliput with PII/450 laptop, custom DC-DC power supply, 60GB; Garmin GPS; 802.11g; compact keyboard, small graphical LCDs, OBDII.

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            • #7
              Which OS would be the best carPC and home PC?
              what type of computers are those? I'm not familiar with them.

              But I have a windows 2000 box running on pre-production pentium 4 hardware that has been running now for 229 days now without a reboot, and it was 96 days before that without a reboot, only rebooted to install SP1. So I think it's pretty solid =) I would definitely recomment against any of the windows 95/98/ME flavours, go with 2K or XP.

              Mind you, it also depends exactly what it is that you want to do with this machine. If it's just going to have an automated script to play music with an LCD or something, then windows98lite will work perfectly fine and be quick for you too.
              IN DEVELOPMENT -- '96 Mustang, lilliput with PII/450 laptop, custom DC-DC power supply, 60GB; Garmin GPS; 802.11g; compact keyboard, small graphical LCDs, OBDII.

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              • #8
                Win98se or in my case win98Lite, works just fine.

                ME pretty much sucks unless your computer came with it from the factory.

                2000 and XP are more stable...but you may have hardware/software conflicts.

                XP gets around that by having a win98 compatibility mode...so why not just run 98.
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                • #9
                  I'm currently running win98se and XP (dual OS) on my home computer. I like XP , very stable, fast booting and a lot of fancy stuff such as cool icons but my cannon printer and HP CDRW are not working and there is no XP drivers yet. so I'm using 98se when I need to print or CDRW.

                  I really like XP but it's not quite perfect OS for me yet. So I decided to go with win2000. I never used w2k before. The problem is I only have win2k server , I don't think I can't use this for my car computer so I'm trying to get win2k professional for car computer and win2k server for home computer.

                  What do you think?

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                  • #10
                    Just a quick bit of useless info on your CDRW not working...

                    I would expect a HP CDRW drive to work fine under XP with the built in drivers as it is a very common and standard part. Did you install Easy CD Creator under XP? If you did, then that's your problem. The drivers installed by CD Creator conflict with the built in drivers in XP. The XP software is simply just Easy CD Creator with a different look, the back end is the same. So if you remove your copy of Creator, it may begin to work.

                    If it really was a "no support" situation, I would be very surprised at Microsoft. They are usually pretty good at trying to support everything when they make a new OS (one of the few good things I have to say about MS).
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                    • #11
                      hmmm I never try to use CDRW just under XP, it works as CD-rom but didn't try to write CD-R I just assume that it wouldn't work since 'Easy CD Creator' says it can't find driver for CDRW. I'll try to write CD-R just under XP.

                      But my Cannon Multipass L6000 Fax/printer doesn't work for sure. It needs 'MultiPass Background' program running in background to work but they is no updated program for XP yet. I email cannon support but they say they don't have XP driver yet and they don't know when it will come out.

                      And the last hardware problem , my HP keyboard (model # SK-2505)I have it for car computer , I took it apart for a volume control and shortcut buttons. It also doesn't work in XP.

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                      • #12
                        i really want to install XP on my carputer. i have XP Pro on my home pc, and it runs great. not 1 blue screen yet and i had no problems with hardware compatibility. If i can get XP to boot/shutdown faster than Win 95, ill install it in the car. The nice thing is the amount of tweaks there are for XP. Im very impressed so far, even the difference of stability between 2000 and XP is evident (XP is more stable).
                        2004 F-150
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                        "How piMP3d is your ride??"

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                        • #13
                          I can't use my USB GPS unit in XP. The drivers were written for 98/ME. It just simply wont work (yet).

                          Otherwise, XP is running fine in the car. Boot/Shut down time is faster than ME. It takes about 5secs to hibernate. I haven't checked boot time yet but it's also faster.

                          Oh and the display is very clear compared to WinME. I don't know if 2K had the cleartype stuff but it's a must have for lcd screens. Very nice.

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                          • #14
                            I'm still in the process of getting my carpc together and I haven't gotten as far as making an OS decision yet, I've been toying with XP at home and it doesn't seem to support 640x480 res. although I haven't looked into it much. Anyone know more on the subject? My screen only has 640x480, and this could be a big issue.
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                            • #15
                              Dragyn,
                              Which USB GPS do you have?? I really hope its not Copilot - becuase mine JUST shipped....

                              Jonathan
                              JZ CarPC - 1998 Volvo C70
                              Shuttle SV-24 Celery 400Mhz 128MB SDRAM 60GB HD DVD, 12.1" VGA TFT LCD, Sproggy/Mastero DC-DC ATX PSU, Mucha ATX shutdown controller, Co-Pilot GPS

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