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    Allright, I have 4 Old laptops here. I'm going to install 98se on all. Here's the problem. One of the laptops has a non removable floppy drive, the other 3 have cdroms. There is no way to boot to CDRom so I'm pretty much screwed on that.

    Ya know when you put in a Windows Boot up diskette, it will install drivers for the CDROM? Well I have been working my *** off trying to build the right boot files to have on drive C, so it will do the same ****. But I can't get it to work. I'm stressing out soo bad. I've gotten really close, but its not close enough.

    what I need is all the files necesary to copy over to each of the laptops hard drives, so I dont have to worry about a floppy drive, so that I can boot to the hard drive, and it will ask me if I want cdrom support and it will install the cdrom drivers so I can go to the CDrom inside DOS, and start the windows installation.

    I'm soo stressed from not getting it all right, that I'm just about to give up. So thats why I'm comming to you guys, I'm sure you guys can figure it out. You should know what to do. Please Help me so I can install fresh copies of windows 98 on these bad boys.

    The tops will be used for Tuners and Datalogers for OBD1 and 2. Not Carputers. Well one laptop might become a carputer, but I dont know.
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  • #2
    Ok, here's everything. I start out by using a good Windows 98 SE Floppy, I boot into DOS and I format the drive using the following command:

    A:\>Format C: /q/s

    I dont give the drive a name at this point because of the hell I'm going through. Then I give it system properties with the command:

    A:\>sys c:

    After the system is Transfered. I copy all the files from the floppy to the hard drive:

    A:\>copy *.* c:

    When it asks to replace certain files, I make sure I dont replace the files I just added such as the Command.com and Drivespce.bin.

    So now it copies over some 19 files. I edit the Autoexec.bat file to have the C:\ Path instead of the A:\ path since this boot setup will be used on hard drives on a system that has no A Drive.

    I restart and here is exactly what happends:

    Microsoft Windows 98 Startup Menu
    ============================

    1. Start computer with CD-ROM support.
    2. Start computer without CD-ROM support.
    3. View the Help file.

    Enter a choice: _

    I choose 1 because I want to make sure that it loads the CDROM Drivers and it then gives me the Windows 98 Load screen for some odd reason. This freaked me out. Then it says:

    Preparing to start your computer.
    This may take a few minutes. Please wait...


    Not ready reading drive A
    Abort, Retry, Fail?

    The only thing that will work is Abort or Fail. So I press Abort. and it gives me :

    The Windows 98 startup disk could not create a temporary drive for the diagnostic tools. This may be because this computer has less than the minimum required extended memory.

    Path not found - :\COMMAND.COM
    Path not found - :\EXTRACT.EXE
    Path not found - :\README.TXT
    Bad command or file name
    The diagnostic tools were sucessfully loaded to drive .

    File not found

    to get help, type HELP and press ENTER.

    C:\>_

    And here is the end... What do I do next?
    1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T
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    RF Power T162S | RF Power T162S | 2x RF Power T212D2 | RF Power T8004 | RF Power T20001bd | RF 3SIXTY.2

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    • #3
      Ok, I think the drivers are trying to load, but the first driver for the cdrom isn't working. Something about a "ERROR: PCI READ CONFIGURATION FAILURE" right when its supposed to specify the device letter.
      1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T
      ABIT NF-M2 nView | AMD Athlon64 FX62 Windsor | nVidia GeForce 6150 | Realtek ALC883 7.1DTS | Vista x64
      RF Power T162S | RF Power T162S | 2x RF Power T212D2 | RF Power T8004 | RF Power T20001bd | RF 3SIXTY.2

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      • #4
        You don't need to copy the startup disk to the c:\ partition. If you have a laptop with floppy drive then select with CD Rom support, change directory and run setup from the CD Rom.
        For the other laptops without floppy drive copy the startup disk to a CD and boot from that CD.

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        • #5
          1. Buy yourself a 2.5 to 3.5 hdd adapter, plug the drives into a desktop, install there, then move to laptop drive.

          2. use 3.5 to 2.5 adapter, hook to desktop sys the drive (copy system files over) and copy the CD to it then install from there.

          You could also try the bootdisks from www.bootdisk.com If you can find a Win98 OPK disk that makes the installation a lot easier (reads A, formats C, copies system files, reboots, copies all files from CD to HDD, reboots, starts UNATTENDED installation from harddrive.. then your done.. ) Its what OEM PC installers use in order to install all the software on a computer before they ship it out so when you turn it on you get the welcome screen and all that BS.. if you cant find an win98 OPK disk let me know I think I still have one laying around.. (and one for WinME too)
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MGD
            You don't need to copy the startup disk to the c:\ partition. If you have a laptop with floppy drive then select with CD Rom support, change directory and run setup from the CD Rom.
            For the other laptops without floppy drive copy the startup disk to a CD and boot from that CD.
            Obviously you didn't pay attention. Two laptops dont have floppies, and the one that does doesn't have a cdrom.
            1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T
            ABIT NF-M2 nView | AMD Athlon64 FX62 Windsor | nVidia GeForce 6150 | Realtek ALC883 7.1DTS | Vista x64
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            • #7
              Originally posted by 97GST
              Obviously you didn't pay attention. Two laptops dont have floppies, and the one that does doesn't have a cdrom.
              Why not....


              just find one laptop that you can boot and install on,
              then remove the drives out the other laptops
              then swap out the drives in the bootable laptop until you've installed win98se on the different drives and put them back.

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              • #8
                I have a laptop and this is what I get "setup found a compressed volume or a disk-cache utility on your computer". I have run fdisk, kill disk, wipe disk etc but cannot wipe this compressed volume.
                Any ideas on how to get rid of this compressed volume?

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                • #9
                  you could do a low level format with the drive manufacturers software available on their website. Or you could try something along the lines of Active@ Kill Disk. located here http://www.brothersoft.com/security/...ser_26173.html there are several other hard drive "killing" programs out there that will completely qipe out the drive.
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                  • #10
                    You could also try Fdisk /mbr, to re-write the Master Boot Record. Reboot and then Fdisk, Re-Format and your good to go.

                    KPJ
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                    • #11
                      gdisk is your friend. Old versions (before norton snapped it up) can be found by searching google. Its basically fdisk on crack.

                      As for the laptop issue, take the hd out of the floppy laptop, open one of the cdrom laptops, remove its hd and insert the floppy laptop's hd, insert a bootable cd, boot to dos, format the hd, fdisk /mbr and sys c: it, swap the cd with your win98se disk, copy the setup dir to the c: drive, replace all drives in their laptops, boot the floppy-based laptop, go to the setup dir, and run setup.exe and you're done.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fooshizn1x
                        1. Buy yourself a 2.5 to 3.5 hdd adapter, plug the drives into a desktop, install there, then move to laptop drive.

                        2. use 3.5 to 2.5 adapter, hook to desktop sys the drive (copy system files over) and copy the CD to it then install from there.

                        You could also try the bootdisks from www.bootdisk.com If you can find a Win98 OPK disk that makes the installation a lot easier (reads A, formats C, copies system files, reboots, copies all files from CD to HDD, reboots, starts UNATTENDED installation from harddrive.. then your done.. ) Its what OEM PC installers use in order to install all the software on a computer before they ship it out so when you turn it on you get the welcome screen and all that BS.. if you cant find an win98 OPK disk let me know I think I still have one laying around.. (and one for WinME too)


                        That's the most efficient way todo it. I recently installed a win98se Lite in sleek mode (read IE totaly removed, using good ol' win95 explorer) on a tiny 486-DX2-50, and that was easy.

                        HDD connected to my desktop,
                        FDISK to define 3 partitions C,D,E
                        Format of C, D, E,
                        Copy /WIN98 subdirectory to D from zindoz cdrom,
                        Copy install CDs for appz to E
                        Copy system files to c:
                        Activate C partition as a primary dos partition.

                        Shut down

                        Replug laptop Hdd into laptop,power it on, enter bios, define C as first boot volume, save, reboot.

                        when you're ready to install, cd D:/WIn98 then Install.
                        Now Galileo is real. Muhahahahaha :p

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bayawan View Post
                          I have a laptop and this is what I get "setup found a compressed volume or a disk-cache utility on your computer". I have run fdisk, kill disk, wipe disk etc but cannot wipe this compressed volume.
                          Any ideas on how to get rid of this compressed volume?
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                          • #14
                            Are you still looking for an answer to your question? Send me a PM... this is actually pretty easy to do.
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