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  • Need assistance improving boot time - Windows Xp - 12s

    [Edited with updated info]
    I have run into a brick wall trying to improve Windows XP boot time.

    The problem i am having is that my CF card is increasing boot/hibernate time rather than decreasing it

    This is a list of things i have which are available.

    Hardware:
    AMD Wafer-LX 500Mhz
    256 / 512 / 1024 mb ram
    80gb samsung HD / 20gb hitachi HD / 4gb Sandisk Extreme IV CF
    (it has both a IDE cable and a IDE CF slot)

    Software:
    Windows XP (nlited)
    12 services running
    Minlogon
    EWF
    HORM

    Specific Programs:
    VLC
    Winamp
    Firefox

    Nlite install(192mb) - Windows XP installed 300-350mb.

    POST is 5-6 seconds!

    XP Boot / Hibernate (with post)
    With HDD - Boot time 20-24 seconds, hibernate 12 seconds
    With CF - Boot time 20-25 seconds, hibernate 19 seconds

    With a specially built linux this setup boots in 7-8 seconds with post.(including GUI)

    I would really like to get XP under 10s from hibernate.

    The Boot time increase occurs when the Windows XP loading screen is (blue cubes scrolling from left to right)

    HDtach says - HDD 31mb/s - CF 29mb/s

    Bios says - HDD / CF both run in UDMA

    The problem i am having is that the CF card is increasing my boot rather rather than improving it. I believe it should not.

    So far these are the things i have tried to reduce boot time:
    1) Changed memory modules , it does not change anything regarding hibernate speed.
    2) Changed the default windows shell (explorer.exe)
    3) Tried with/without horm/ewf did not matter
    4) Tried using a sata-cf converter, made it worse
    5) Multiple tests with network(disable) , did not yield any definite results

    I did attempt more things , dont think they are noteworthy.

    What i am thinking may be wrong is that Windows XP is using a lesser driver when loading XP from CF than HDD. Perhaps the driver that NTLDR uses could be changed to a better one ?

    However at this point any idears are welcome.

    [Update]
    Using bootvis i can see that my CF card has a 9 second delay after it loads ISAPNP.SYS
    Next it loads scsiport.sys and after that everything is normal.

    Does anyone know exacly what happends when ISAPNP.SYS loads that would affect my CF but not my HDD ?

  • #2
    Post your LastSession.ini and ill see if theres anything that can speed things ups

    I have my setup running on as little as 3 services, and just bare to run ok approx 60mb RAM without loading any of the main software of course.

    Im using a 5400 2.5" laptop hard drive which is fast, im just experimenting with CF cards at the moment with EWF
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    • #3
      The CF card adapter has to initialize. This takes more time than without the adapter. This is probably why your boot time is now taking longer.
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      • #4
        Lastsession.ini Hiddenh

        [Main]
        Env = 1.4.1 - 2.0.50727.42.Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
        Target = Windows XP Professional SP2 - 5.1.2600.2180 - English (United States)

        [Tasks]
        Remove Components
        Integrate Drivers
        Tweaks
        Options

        [Components]
        ;# Compatibility #
        Compat02
        Compat11

        [KeepFiles]
        msconfig.exe

        [RemoveFiles]
        clock.avi
        yahoo.bmp
        swtchbrd.bmp

        [Options]
        CABNoHigh
        DisableFreereq
        DisableMinMem
        ProfilesDir = "%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings"
        TargetPath = "WINDOWS"
        temp_dir = %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
        NoWmpComp
        AdvTweaks

        [Patches]

        [Services2]
        AppMgmt,4
        ClipSrv,4
        EventSystem,4
        COMSysApp,3
        Browser,3
        CryptSvc,2
        DHCP,2
        MSDTC,4
        DNSCACHE,3
        Eventlog,3
        FastUserSwitchingCompatibility,4
        HTTPFilter,3
        HidServ,2
        NetLogon,3
        NetBT,3
        Netman,4
        NetDDE,4
        NetDDEdsdm,4
        NLA,4
        xmlprov,3
        NtLmSsp,4
        SysmonLog,4
        PlugPlay,2
        Spooler,3
        ProtectedStorage,4
        RDSessMgr,4
        RpcLocator,2
        RemoteAccess,4
        SamSs,3
        LanmanServer,3
        ShellHWDetection,4
        SENS,4
        LMHosts,3
        TapiSrv,4
        TermService,4
        Themes,4
        WebClient,3
        AudioSrv,2
        SharedAccess,4
        StiSvc,3
        MSIServer,3
        winmgmt,3
        Wmi,3
        WZCSVC,3
        WmiApSrv,3
        LanmanWorkstation,2

        [Tweaks]
        Desktop-My Computer icon-Show
        Desktop-My Documents icon-Hide
        Desktop-My Network Places icon-Hide
        Desktop-Recycle Bin icon-Hide
        Explorer-Change Windows Explorer folder view-Details
        Explorer-Classic Control Panel
        Explorer-Disable Autorun
        Explorer-Disable Beep on errors
        Explorer-Disable Prefix: Shortcut to
        Explorer-Disable shortcut arrow
        Explorer-Disable Web Files and Folders connection
        Explorer-Display the contents of system folders
        Explorer-Recycle Bin: delete files directly
        Explorer-Remove Send To on context menu
        Explorer-Show extensions of known file-types
        Explorer-Show hidden files and folders
        Explorer-Show protected operating system files
        My Computer-Remove Manage from Context Menu
        My Computer-Remove Search from Context Menu
        My Computer-Remove Shared Documents
        Network-Allow receiving Remote Assistance-Disable
        Network-Disable automatic search for network folders and printers
        Network-Disable LM HOSTS lookup
        Network-Disable Simple File Sharing
        Network-Remote Desktop-Disable
        Performance-Disable Info Tips on Files and Folders
        Performance-Disable Last accessed Timestamp on files
        Performance-Disable Optimize harddisk when idle
        Performance-Disable paging of kernel and core-os
        Performance-Disable Tracking of Broken Shortcut Links
        Performance-Disable Warn on low disk space
        Performance-Do not cache thumbnails
        Privacy-Disable Driver Update Internet prompt
        Privacy-Remove Alexa
        Start Menu-Disable popup on first boot
        Start Menu-Do not use Personalized Menus
        Start Menu-Hide Search button in Start Panel
        Start Menu-My Computer-Display as a menu
        Start Menu-My Documents-Don't display this item
        Start Menu-My Music-Don't display this item
        Start Menu-My Network Places-Don't display this item
        Start Menu-My Pictures-Don't display this item
        Start Menu-Network Connections-Don't display this item
        Start Menu-Printers and Faxes-Don't display this item
        Start Menu-Reduce popup delay
        Start Menu-Remove Search the Internet from Search
        Start Menu-Remove Set Program Access and Defaults
        Taskbar-Disable Balloon Tips
        Taskbar-Disable Group similar Taskbar buttons
        Taskbar-Disable Hide inactive icons
        Taskbar-Hide Volume Control Icon in System Tray
        Visual Effects-Active window tracking-Disable
        Visual Effects-Active window tracking speed-Zero delay
        Visual Effects-Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing-Disable
        Visual Effects-Combo box animation-Disable
        Visual Effects-Cursor shadow-Disable
        Visual Effects-Display mouse pointer trails-Disable
        Visual Effects-Fade out selection-Disable
        Visual Effects-Gradient captions in windows-Disable
        Visual Effects-Keyboard shortcut underline-Disable
        Visual Effects-Menu animation-Disable
        Visual Effects-Menu shadows-Disable
        Visual Effects-Show translucent selection rectangle-Disable
        Visual Effects-Show window contents while dragging-Disable
        Visual Effects-Slide taskbar buttons-Disable
        Visual Effects-Smooth edges of screen fonts-ClearType
        Visual Effects-Smooth-scroll list boxes-Disable
        Visual Effects-Tooltip animation-Disable
        Visual Effects-Use a background image for each folder type-Disable
        Visual Effects-Use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop-Disable

        [Unattended]
        ComputerType = Default
        MaximumDataStorePercentOfDisk = 12
        RestorePointLife = 30
        DesktopTheme = Default||
        AutoUDay = 5
        AutoUHour = 15
        ProgFilesPath = "\Program Files"

        [NetAdapter1]
        connname = ""
        macaddress = ""
        ipaddress = "192.168.0.1"
        subnetmask = "255.255.255.0"
        defaultgateway = ""
        dnsserver1 = ""
        dnsserver2 = ""
        winsserver = ""
        netbiossetting = "0"
        ipxnetworknumber = "00000000"
        ipxnetworkframetype = "0xFF"

        [GuiRunOnce]

        [Drivers]
        D:\Windows XP Small\Wafer LX Drivers\WAFER-LX-R10_Driver_SATA_ALi_M5283\ALi_SATA_M5283\win_xp\m5 228.INF,m5281XP
        D:\Windows XP Small\Wafer LX Drivers\WAFER-LX_Driver_Audio_XP_GeodeLX_WDM_v2.03.00\GeodeLX_XP _XPe_WDM_Audio_v2.03.00\LXWDMAu.inf,0
        D:\Windows XP Small\Wafer LX Drivers\WAFER-LX-R10_Driver_Ethernet_WinXP-98-2k_RTL8100C_V6.21\RTL8100C Windows_XP_98SE_ME_2K V6.21\WinXP\NetrtOEM.inf,0
        D:\Windows XP Small\Wafer LX Drivers\WAFER-LX-R10_Driver_IT8888\IT8888\ite.inf,0
        D:\Windows XP Small\Wafer LX Drivers\WAFER-LX-R10_Driver_IT8888\IT8888\GeodeLX_XP_WDM_AES_v2.01. 00\LXAES.inf,0
        D:\Windows XP Small\Wafer LX Drivers\WAFER-LX_Driver_VGA_WinXP_Norwich_Graphics_v3.00.02\Geod eLX_XP_XPe_Graphics_v3.00.02\lx_win.inf,0

        [Hotfixes]

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        • #5
          Looks like a pretty lean .ini... You might shave another 0.5 sec. playing with Windows and trying to optimize this file.

          You might get more Gain toolin' around in your BIOS. What MB? Try setting the hard drive auto-detects to manual pre-sets. Shave like a second off depending on your board.
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          • #6
            Update:

            I have gotten hibernate boot times from CF down to only 12 seconds(6sek post, 6sec windows load).

            I dont have it certain but i think this has something to do with CF + Hibernate + Minlogon + EWF.
            Not sure yet but it think this is what i have to do when i have everything set up. Hibernate the computer untill it does quick restore from hibernate(12 sec instead of 18) and then put EWF back on so windows wont overwrite the hibernate file.(which i currently only have 1 copy of) - so far i have reboot perhaps 200 times and only got maybe 5 quick hibernate files.

            Memory usage is only 60-73mb depending on if i have Wireless or not.

            My highest priority now is finding out what does make some hibernates fasters than others and reducing the size of XP even further (deleting OEMBIOS and such)

            galvitron:
            I guess its doubtful that it is the "initialization" of the CF adapter since this appearantly does not happend everytime i hibernate.

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            • #7
              A system boot taking inconsistent times is usually related to the last peripheral device you plugged in.
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              • #8
                Alright.

                Connected items areall USB)
                Mouse, Keyboard , Speakers , Hub , Thumb Drive , Wireless Card.

                This would either be the mouse or keyboard since this problem has exists way before i started using the other items.

                However my last successful Hibernate file has keyboard and mouse loaded.

                Could it be caused by them in some wierd way ?

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                • #9
                  USB is a nightmare. All software controlled which means bugs. Unplug all USB and see if anything changes.
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                  • #10
                    Not possible im afraid, This is a EBC Wafer-LX
                    http://www.ieiworld.com/en/Product_I...model=WAFER-LX

                    Only ports i have are 4x usb and one RS-232

                    And i need the keyboard and mouse to shut down / hibernate the computer.

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                    • #11
                      Last sessions looks like youve covered most of the bases, to be more extreme i only have the following 3 services running which uses 38mb RAM (without everything else running)
                      ------------------------------------------
                      Plug and Play
                      Remote procedure Call (RPC)
                      Windows Audio

                      RAM Usage.......... 35.7Mb
                      Processes............. 11
                      Threads................. 131
                      Handles................. 1780
                      --------------------------------------------

                      If i need to add more software/uninstall I have a registry file that puts all settings back to default, otherwise it causes crashes (but only when installing)

                      To get your Windows intall down you could also remove alot more of Windows

                      Seen as you integrate your drivers you could also remove (And PCMCIA if your not using a laptop)

                      Code:
                      ;# Drivers #
                      Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM)
                      Cameras and Camcorders
                      Display Adapters
                      Display Adapters (old)
                      IBM PS/2 TrackPoint
                      IBM Thinkpad
                      ISDN
                      Logitech WingMan
                      Microsoft SideWinder
                      Modems
                      Portable Audio
                      Printers
                      Scanners
                      SCSI/RAID
                      Serial Pen Tablet
                      Sony Jog Dial
                      Sound Controllers
                      Tape drives
                      Toshiba DVD decoder card
                      You could also shave lots off my remove keyboards
                      Code:
                      ;# Keyboards #
                      Albanian keyboard
                      Arabic (101) keyboard
                      Arabic (102) AZERTY keyboard
                      Arabic (102) keyboard
                      Armenian Eastern keyboard
                      Armenian Western keyboard
                      Azeri Cyrillic keyboard
                      Azeri Latin keyboard
                      Belarusian keyboard
                      Belgian (Comma) keyboard
                      Belgian (Period) keyboard
                      Belgian French keyboard
                      Bengali (Inscript) keyboard
                      Bengali keyboard
                      Bosnian keyboard
                      Bulgarian (Latin) keyboard
                      Bulgarian keyboard
                      Canadian French (Legacy) keyboard
                      Canadian French keyboard
                      Canadian Multilingual Standard keyboard
                      Chinese (Simplified) - Microsoft Pinyin IME 3.0 keyboard
                      Chinese (Simplified) - NeiMa keyboard
                      Chinese (Simplified) - QuanPin keyboard
                      Chinese (Simplified) - ShuangPin keyboard
                      Chinese (Simplified) - US Keyboard keyboard
                      Chinese (Simplified) - ZhengMa keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - Alphanumeric keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - Array keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - Big5 Code keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - ChangJie keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - DaYi keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - New ChangJie keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - New Phonetic keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - Phonetic keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - Quick keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - Unicode keyboard
                      Chinese (Traditional) - US Keyboard keyboard
                      Croatian keyboard
                      Czech (QWERTY) keyboard
                      Czech keyboard
                      Czech Programmers keyboard
                      Danish keyboard
                      Devanagari - INSCRIPT keyboard
                      Divehi Phonetic keyboard
                      Divehi Typewriter keyboard
                      Dutch keyboard
                      Estonian keyboard
                      Faeroese keyboard
                      Farsi keyboard
                      Finnish keyboard
                      Finnish with Sami keyboard
                      French keyboard
                      FYRO Macedonian keyboard
                      Gaelic keyboard
                      Georgian keyboard
                      German (IBM) keyboard
                      German keyboard
                      Greek (220) keyboard
                      Greek (220) Latin keyboard
                      Greek (319) keyboard
                      Greek (319) Latin keyboard
                      Greek keyboard
                      Greek Latin keyboard
                      Greek Polytonic keyboard
                      Gujarati keyboard
                      Hebrew keyboard
                      Hindi Traditional keyboard
                      Hungarian 101-key keyboard
                      Hungarian keyboard
                      Icelandic keyboard
                      Irish keyboard
                      Italian (142) keyboard
                      Italian keyboard
                      Japanese Input System (MS-IME2002) keyboard
                      Japanese keyboard
                      Kannada keyboard
                      Kazakh keyboard
                      Korean Input System (IME 2000) keyboard
                      Korean keyboard
                      Kyrgyz Cyrillic keyboard
                      Latin American keyboard
                      Latvian (QWERTY) keyboard
                      Latvian keyboard
                      Lithuanian IBM keyboard
                      Lithuanian keyboard
                      Malayalam keyboard
                      Maltese 47-key keyboard
                      Maltese 48-key keyboard
                      Maori keyboard
                      Marathi keyboard
                      Mongolian Cyrillic keyboard
                      Norwegian keyboard
                      Norwegian with Sami keyboard
                      Polish (214) keyboard
                      Polish (Programmers) keyboard
                      Portuguese (Brazilian ABNT) keyboard
                      Portuguese (Brazilian ABNT2) keyboard
                      Portuguese keyboard
                      Punjabi keyboard
                      Romanian keyboard
                      Russian (Typewriter) keyboard
                      Russian keyboard
                      Sami Extended Finland-Sweden keyboard
                      Sami Extended Norway keyboard
                      Serbian (Cyrillic) keyboard
                      Serbian (Latin) keyboard
                      Slovak (QWERTY) keyboard
                      Slovak keyboard
                      Slovenian keyboard
                      Spanish keyboard
                      Spanish Variation keyboard
                      Swedish keyboard
                      Swedish with Sami keyboard
                      Swiss French keyboard
                      Swiss German keyboard
                      Syriac keyboard
                      Syriac Phonetic keyboard
                      Tamil keyboard
                      Tatar keyboard
                      Telugu keyboard
                      Thai Kedmanee (non-ShiftLock) keyboard
                      Thai Kedmanee keyboard
                      Thai Pattachote (non-ShiftLock) keyboard
                      Thai Pattachote keyboard
                      Turkish F keyboard
                      Turkish Q keyboard
                      Ukrainian keyboard
                      United States-Dvorak for left hand keyboard
                      United States-Dvorak for right hand keyboard
                      United States-Dvorak keyboard
                      United States-International keyboard
                      Urdu keyboard
                      US English Table for IBM Arabic 238_L keyboard
                      Uzbek Cyrillic keyboard
                      Vietnamese keyboard
                      ;# Languages #
                      ;Arabic
                      Arabic (Algeria)
                      Arabic (Bahrain)
                      Arabic (Egypt)
                      Arabic (Iraq)
                      Arabic (Jordan)
                      Arabic (Kuwait)
                      Arabic (Lebanon)
                      Arabic (Libya)
                      Arabic (Morocco)
                      Arabic (Oman)
                      Arabic (Qatar)
                      Arabic (Saudi Arabia)
                      Arabic (Syria)
                      Arabic (Tunisia)
                      Arabic (U.A.E.)
                      Arabic (Yemen)
                      Divehi (Maldives)
                      Syriac (Syria)
                      Urdu
                      ;Armenian
                      Armenian
                      ;Baltic
                      Estonian
                      Latvian
                      Lithuanian
                      ;Central Europe
                      Albanian
                      Bosnian (Latin, Bosnia and Herzegovina)
                      Croatian
                      Croatian (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
                      Czech
                      Hungarian
                      Polish
                      Romanian
                      Serbian (Latin)
                      Serbian (Latin, Bosnia and Herzegovina)
                      Slovak
                      Slovenian
                      ;Cyrillic
                      Azeri (Cyrillic)
                      Belarusian
                      Bulgarian
                      FYRO Macedonian
                      Kazakh
                      Kyrgyz (Kyrgyzstan)
                      Mongolian (Mongolia)
                      Russian
                      Serbian (Cyrillic)
                      Serbian (Cyrillic, Bosnia and Herzegovina)
                      Tatar
                      Ukrainian
                      Uzbek (Cyrillic)
                      ;Georgian
                      Georgian
                      ;Greek
                      Greek
                      ;Hebrew
                      Hebrew
                      ;Indic
                      Bengali (India)
                      Gujarati (India)
                      Hindi
                      Kannada (India)
                      Konkani
                      Malayalam (India)
                      Marathi
                      Punjabi (India)
                      Sanskrit
                      Tamil
                      Telugu (India)
                      ;Japanese
                      Japanese
                      ;Korean
                      Korean
                      ;Simplified Chinese
                      Chinese (PRC)
                      Chinese (Singapore)
                      ;Thai
                      Farsi
                      Thai
                      ;Traditional Chinese
                      Chinese (Hong Kong S.A.R.)
                      Chinese (Macau S.A.R.)
                      Chinese (Taiwan)
                      ;Turkic
                      Azeri (Latin)
                      Turkish
                      Uzbek (Latin)
                      ;Vietnamese
                      Vietnamese
                      ;Western Europe and United States
                      Afrikaans
                      Basque
                      Catalan
                      Danish
                      Dutch (Belgium)
                      Dutch (Netherlands)
                      English (Australia)
                      English (Belize)
                      English (Canada)
                      English (Caribbean)
                      English (Ireland)
                      English (Jamaica)
                      English (New Zealand)
                      English (Philippines)
                      English (South Africa)
                      English (Trinidad)
                      English (Zimbabwe)
                      Faeroese
                      Finnish
                      French (Belgium)
                      French (Canada)
                      French (France)
                      French (Luxembourg)
                      French (Monaco)
                      French (Switzerland)
                      Galician (Spain)
                      German (Austria)
                      German (Germany)
                      German (Liechtenstein)
                      German (Luxembourg)
                      German (Switzerland)
                      Icelandic
                      Indonesian
                      Italian (Italy)
                      Italian (Switzerland)
                      Malay (Brunei Darussalam)
                      Malay (Malaysia)
                      Maltese
                      Maori
                      Northern Sotho
                      Norwegian (Bokmal)
                      Norwegian (Nynorsk)
                      Portuguese (Brazil)
                      Portuguese (Portugal)
                      Quechua (Bolivia)
                      Quechua (Ecuador)
                      Quechua (Peru)
                      Sami, Inari (Finland)
                      Sami, Lule (Norway)
                      Sami, Lule (Sweden)
                      Sami, Northern (Finland)
                      Sami, Northern (Norway)
                      Sami, Northern (Sweden)
                      Sami, Skolt (Finland)
                      Sami, Southern (Norway)
                      Sami, Southern (Sweden)
                      Spanish (Argentina)
                      Spanish (Bolivia)
                      Spanish (Chile)
                      Spanish (Colombia)
                      Spanish (Costa Rica)
                      Spanish (Dominican Republic)
                      Spanish (Ecuador)
                      Spanish (El Salvador)
                      Spanish (Guatemala)
                      Spanish (Honduras)
                      Spanish (International Sort)
                      Spanish (Mexico)
                      Spanish (Nicaragua)
                      Spanish (Panama)
                      Spanish (Paraguay)
                      Spanish (Peru)
                      Spanish (Puerto Rico)
                      Spanish (Traditional Sort)
                      Spanish (Uruguay)
                      Spanish (Venezuela)
                      Swahili
                      Swedish
                      Swedish (Finland)
                      Tswana
                      Welsh
                      Xhosa
                      Zulu
                      Theres plenty more you can do on top of that, that will shave about 150mb off your image file, and make windows directory way smaller
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                      • #12
                        Also there is a way of getting windows to automatically disable the keyboard and mouse just before shutdown/hibernate and re-enable them on startup/resume using a tool called Devcon by Microsoft.

                        I use it cos my USB touchscreen doesnt always work after hibernate.

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                        • #13
                          jonessc:
                          Thanks for the Devcon tip.

                          I have already stripped out all drivers and all keyboards(aside from 3 which i need).

                          Outof curiosity , how big is you nlite install and how big is your windows when installed ?

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                          • #14
                            you guys are on the right track... but for even more *shaving the fat* so to speak, get a program called NLITE ( http://www.nliteos.com/ )

                            you can shave win2k pro down to 60mb's install cd, xp pro sp2 ive shaved down to 220mb's install cd

                            basicly what it does is break down the xp install cd so you can shave out all the bloat ware that ms thinks the common user needs, i use nlite to make gamer xp disks and have also used it to make my carputer install cd, you can incorporate nvidia drivers (graphix, chipset, sata, lan etc etc) or any other drivers you may need, its quite slick as you can remove ALL of the legacy support drivers and legacy garbage that make xp "compatable" but if you install your OWN drivers for your specific hardware you DONT need any of it cept the core files of xp check it out definately a ++++!
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                            • #15
                              Minddrive:

                              You might want to actually read the original post before replying

                              "Windows XP (nlited)"

                              not to mention the line in the above post

                              "Outof curiosity , how big is you nlite install and how big is your windows when installed ?"

                              And my install is 192mb from disk and 144mb from CD - i need to make it smaller than that!

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