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    Hey ppl,

    So i am building a new car pc, here is the spec:
    32GB SSD Hard Drive
    Jetway mini-itx motherboard
    INTELŽAtom Dual-Core 330 CPU (45nm,FSB 533MHz,1.6GHz,1MB L2 Cache)
    2GB DDR2 RAM

    So i am wondering which version of Windows to install.

    I will be using either Road Runner or Centrafuse.

    USB:
    Touchscreen
    BU353 GPS
    USB Audio Converter Thingy

    I have heard that win2k can give some amazing boot up times and i would like to keep boot times small, i think the SSD should help this. I was also considering win 7 but am unsure if it will have all the drivers i need?

    So what's peoples opinions?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    I've been happy with winxp - minimally slimmed down, using minlogon, ewf, and horm

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    • #3
      i have heard of minlogon what is ewf and horm

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      • #4
        Win2k is better than xp in boot times.

        Win2k is 32 bit
        Windows 7 can be 64 bit...

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        • #5
          64bit would be faster boot?

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          • #6
            no, not necessarily, there's also little reason for a 64-bit os in a carpc. not going to use that much ram, and there are no 64-bit apps for it. All it does is complicate driver compatibility.
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            • #7
              I would second the recomendation for a stripped down winxp. Best boot times possible if you go with the EWF/HORM route (basically, as long as it takes to read your amount of RAM from the harddrive and reset driver states, and you're up). Also, guaranteed same state every time... much more 'appliance' like.
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              • #8
                sound like ill be going for stripped xp then, would you recommend nlite?

                i figure that the ssd will allow me to get fast times, especially from hibernate. Is it the power settings in windows i need to change so that when the opus 90W powers down it hibernates insted of shutting down fully? thanks!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CraziFuzzy View Post
                  no, not necessarily, there's also little reason for a 64-bit os in a carpc. not going to use that much ram, and there are no 64-bit apps for it. All it does is complicate driver compatibility.
                  I beg the differ.

                  Boot times are better on 64bit system. (Atleast on my Quad Core 2.67Ghz)
                  I have not written down the exact numbers, but tested it on the beta of win7

                  Linux wise... I have not tested it yet... Perhaps Kev can answer this better?

                  There's perhaps, no frontend system that is 64bit... yet... but there will be soon.. My own will be 64-bit only.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by drummerian View Post
                    sound like ill be going for stripped xp then, would you recommend nlite?
                    nLite is not a stripped-out version of XP. IT is a tool to create an XP install CD that is customized for your needs.
                    And unless you know what you're doing, I would start with a plain installation of XP first, and start removing things as you go. Once you get it stripped down to the way you want it, then use nLite to create an install disc.

                    i figure that the ssd will allow me to get fast times, especially from hibernate. Is it the power settings in windows i need to change so that when the opus 90W powers down it hibernates insted of shutting down fully? thanks!
                    Correct. There is a setting for what you want the computer to do when you press the power button.
                    Make certain your video drivers are properly installed first. For whatever reason, Windoze doesn't allow you to enable hibernation if the proper video drivers aren't installed.
                    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
                    How about the Wiki?



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CraziFuzzy View Post
                      no, not necessarily, there's also little reason for a 64-bit os in a carpc. not going to use that much ram, and there are no 64-bit apps for it. All it does is complicate driver compatibility.
                      I agree, that is so over kill. Powering the thing reliably will also be an issue.

                      Originally posted by CraziFuzzy View Post
                      I would second the recomendation for a stripped down winxp. Best boot times possible if you go with the EWF/HORM route (basically, as long as it takes to read your amount of RAM from the harddrive and reset driver states, and you're up). Also, guaranteed same state every time... much more 'appliance' like.
                      I use a semi stripped down version of XP. I only removed the language packs. The best way to get fast boot times is to tweak the OS, which has been discussed in the forum. Infact here is one link: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/oper...-msconfig.html
                      EWF and HORM are awesome because if anything goes wrong, you simply reset and the PC will go back to the original state. Same thing if you get a virus, simply turn off the PC and turn it back on and the virus is gone. On my main system I didn't like the idea to writing to the RAM because I use alot of the RAM for graphics, so that system was only tweaked and gets good boot time (about 20 seconds or less), even though I have 26 USB devices connected to it.

                      Now my setup is also going to have 6 additional PC connected, basically one for each passenger. i am going to use EWF and HORM with those, because I want to be able to simply turn them off and on since they use a adapter like a laptop. This way if the passenger messes up on his unit or I decide to simply shut off those units, I can right away. Bad thing about EWF is that if you install something while EWF is on, then it wont save. If you forget and decide to install say adobe reader, then power off, when you turn it back on, adobe will not be there because it was written to RAM.

                      Originally posted by drummerian View Post
                      sound like ill be going for stripped xp then, would you recommend nlite?

                      i figure that the ssd will allow me to get fast times, especially from hibernate. Is it the power settings in windows i need to change so that when the opus 90W powers down it hibernates insted of shutting down fully? thanks!
                      NLite is very easy to use, it can also slipstream service packs. My Windows XP CD was like before SP1, and my PC didnt like it at all. Once I used Nlite to take out the language packs, automatically enter my CD key and slipstream SP3, I had no issues ever again.

                      Originally posted by Crinos View Post
                      I beg the differ.

                      Boot times are better on 64bit system. (Atleast on my Quad Core 2.67Ghz)
                      I have not written down the exact numbers, but tested it on the beta of win7

                      Linux wise... I have not tested it yet... Perhaps Kev can answer this better?

                      There's perhaps, no frontend system that is 64bit... yet... but there will be soon.. My own will be 64-bit only.
                      So you have a Quad Core in your car? What do you do in your car, calculate trajectories of asteroids in a neighboring galaxy? LOL, just kidding. I'm curious to how your powering it, and how your cooling it, if its in your car. My install is about the most massive and a quad core would still have been over kill.
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                      • #12
                        OK, i see. So is the general consesis go for a stripped version of XP, minlogon it, and then EWF and HORN it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by drummerian View Post
                          OK, i see. So is the general consesis go for a stripped version of XP, minlogon it, and then EWF and HORN it.
                          That sounds like a plan.
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                          • #14
                            right, next which front end

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by drummerian View Post
                              right, next which front end
                              I can help with that one too! Centrafuse!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very easy to use, setup, and they are soon coming out with version CF3, which is going to be awesome.
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                              1X Ainol Novo Flame Tab
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