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    Hi, I wonder if it's possible to install an OS like Windows mobile 2003SE on a real PC. I use a ppc wich is enough for me (divx, gps and mp3) and it could be very nice to boot as fast as a ppc and use it on a 7" or 8" TFT touchscreen.

    (Excuse my english, I hope you understand)

  • #2
    worth downloading and giving shot if you have a spare compy to test on

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    • #3
      NO. Windows Mobile is a subset of Windows CE. Installation will require Win CE development tools and additional the unavailable Windows Mobile "extras". i say unavailable, because like Windows Automotive (also Win CE), Microsoft neither put up any development info/tools other than 3rd party software development, nor do they even offer to sell you a dev kit. In the case of Windows automotive it seems like you need to be big... like over 25,000 unit a year big to get it. It specifically includes samples and tools to aid in quickly building your own shell/UI for the auto environment. That being said... plain jane Win CE 5.0 is available for download, tutorials, tools, samples, etc.

      I have been thinking about WinCE though. For what everyone needs/wants their CarPC to do... it's the perfect OS. It's lighter, faster, more stable than XP and made to run from flash memory. If a carpc "platform" existed (and SDK available) that would open things up for hobbyist and other companies to make accessories and other software for that platform. The only problem is that since it uses such tight sw/hw integration... you'd have to buy a "packaged deal" from somewhere and go from there... no installing/customizing the OS yourself and hardware becomes limited...

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      • #4
        WinCE eval download: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/emb...l/default.mspx

        and a tutorial: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...rwithaCEPC.asp
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        • #5
          I've only done one of the video tutorials, but it was excellent. Definitely check it out.

          Eval version is free for 90 days, and then $1000 USD. CE licenses are pretty cheap though... however, I have a feeling that even if you manage to get your machine up and ready before then end of the 90 days, you will have to pay the $1000 before they'll issue you a license. If that isn't the case... the community really should start looking in that direction as a potential "next platform" for carpcs...

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          • #6
            Thanks, but unfortunatly i can't compile a version of win ce for my pc. That's too much for my little brain. I hope one day we have an auto-instal version of it, or windows automotive. We can dream...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jbaou
              Thanks, but unfortunatly i can't compile a version of win ce for my pc. That's too much for my little brain. I hope one day we have an auto-instal version of it, or windows automotive. We can dream...
              Don't think of compile my friend. This isn't *nix. It's essentially the same as WinXPe install/configuration.... using platform manager to pick components for the install image. This isn't so far removed from using nLite (particularly when you are going for the tiny footprint, having to worry about dependencies). So no... not brain surgery. Getting a basic bootable image going isn't so bad (using Via's BSP). The next steps of adding frontend, nav and such... that is where programming knowledge would be handy.

              People shouldn't feel intimidated by this, but at the same time... it's not for "XX for dummies" people either.

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              • #8
                I know this is not quite what you're looking for, but you can run 2003SE apps on a carputer through an emulator. I've currently got an emulator running TomTom on my carputer. you'll need a beefy machine to do it tho. which defeats the objective that you're trying acheive!

                emulator can be d'loaded here
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jmbickham
                  I've only done one of the video tutorials, but it was excellent. Definitely check it out.

                  Eval version is free for 90 days, and then $1000 USD. CE licenses are pretty cheap though... however, I have a feeling that even if you manage to get your machine up and ready before then end of the 90 days, you will have to pay the $1000 before they'll issue you a license. If that isn't the case... the community really should start looking in that direction as a potential "next platform" for carpcs...
                  keep us updated on this!

                  if I had any programming experience to speak of, I'd give it a go...

                  maybe I can blow some time with the tutorials and see if I understand it at all...lol
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