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  • Need help optimizing Win2k for fast boot

    I would rate my computer skills as sufficient to get me out of a jam, but not sufficient to program. I know how to edit and save my Bios, but I don't know what everything does in there. I only feel comfortable editing the registry when I have clear instructions to follow.

    So that gives you an idea of where I'm coming from when asking for help in decreasing the boot-up time of my Win2k carputer. I'm planning the install for this weekend despite having a 90 second boot time. I've hunted for a tutorial and glanced through the posts in this forum - most have to do with XP. (Maybe I should change? That would take days!!!)

    Can anyone out there hook me up? I have a keyboard, wireless optical mouse dongle, camera, GPS antenna, bluetooth dongle, powermate and touchscreen connected to a USB hub with the hub, a DVD drive, and XM connected to my computer USB ports. I've added a 2-USB and 2-firewire hub to the case using the mobo's terminals, but nothing is currently connected to them. The 90 seconds is measured from ign on to music playing. I'm using Frodoplayer, the PC is a P4, 1.8gHz, 1056RAM, 160GB 7200 RPM HDD.

    Any tips or tricks available?

    Update 11/26/05 14:15 ET: Found this webpage outside the forums. Will try it out and see what happens. There are things listed that I KNOW my boot-up can be streamlined with...

    Update 11/26/05 15:32 ET: More good info, here and here. Will try all these and post feedback.
    My first attempt at a carputer.

    PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

  • #2
    Hi there,

    one thing to try is Bootvis. Do a google search for it on the web. This will run defrag and place your boot up files in the best place on your disk for faster boot times. It can make a big impact. I can also recommend doing the minlogin tweak to speed up your boot.

    Good Luck
    KPJUK
    M1000, 512MB, 512MB CF, 6GB Disk (4200rpm),
    DVD/RW, Dynamix 8" screen, M2-ATX, Custom case,Too many hours building and rebuilding and rebuild.......

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kpjuk
      one thing to try is Bootvis. Do a google search for it on the web. This will run defrag and place your boot up files in the best place on your disk for faster boot times. It can make a big impact. I can also recommend doing the minlogin tweak to speed up your boot.
      Thanks for the advice. I'll research those two tips! <charting new territory...(for me, anyway!)>
      My first attempt at a carputer.

      PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kpjuk
        one thing to try is Bootvis. Do a google search for it on the web. This will run defrag and place your boot up files in the best place on your disk for faster boot times. It can make a big impact. I can also recommend doing the minlogin tweak to speed up your boot.
        Maybe it's just me... but neither of these appear to be Win2k compatible. Am I wrong?
        My first attempt at a carputer.

        PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

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        • #5
          Sorry matey, I am on XP, and thought these would work.......

          You are in the right place to ask the question though, got some clever chaps in this place to help sort your problems !

          Have you considered moving to XP ? If you do check out nLite, ultraXP being developed by the guys on these boards.

          Good Luck .... KPJUK
          M1000, 512MB, 512MB CF, 6GB Disk (4200rpm),
          DVD/RW, Dynamix 8" screen, M2-ATX, Custom case,Too many hours building and rebuilding and rebuild.......

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kpjuk
            Have you considered moving to XP ? If you do check out nLite, ultraXP being developed by the guys on these boards.
            I'm starting to consider XP. The downside to the "upgrade" is the amount of time I've already invested getting this machine to run Win2k. I'd be starting from scratch meaning I'd have to spend 10+ hours getting my system back to the same level of functionality as I have now. I FINALLY have all of my software and hardware working together and I don't look forward to starting over...

            Thanks for your help!!!
            My first attempt at a carputer.

            PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

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            • #7
              Here's the latest:

              I performed these updates and I'd recommend them to anyone. There's lots of great information. However, it didn't take much time off my boot-up. Roughly 10 seconds.

              I changed the settings in Power Options to allow for hibernation and set Win2k for "hibernation on power switch" input. That cut my reboot time down to 40 seconds. I don't think that's bad considering the amount of items I have running on the USB.

              Comments?
              My first attempt at a carputer.

              PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

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              • #8
                I'm glad to see that you are making progress. A thing to consider with XP though:
                I am running on a 4200 disk, with an nLite image. This is giving me a boot time of 27 seconds, Hibernation recovery of 11 secs and Standby recovery of 4 secs.

                I am nowhere near the fastest Boot times, others who peruse these boards are down to 15 second boot times using XP, and I guess Standby is almost instantaneous !

                Another thought, have you tried the website that does 98lite and XPlite ? Using a copy of 98lite, I had a 98se image booting in 9 seconds. I am sure that they also do a version for windows 2000, which may be worth having a look at. They are at www.litepc.com

                regards
                KPJUK
                M1000, 512MB, 512MB CF, 6GB Disk (4200rpm),
                DVD/RW, Dynamix 8" screen, M2-ATX, Custom case,Too many hours building and rebuilding and rebuild.......

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                • #9
                  Thank you... again.

                  Originally posted by kpjuk
                  I am nowhere near the fastest Boot times, others who peruse these boards are down to 15 second boot times using XP, and I guess Standby is almost instantaneous !
                  Damn, that's disheartening. And here I was SO proud of my 40 second boot to music time. Thinking out loud... is everyone counting the time from IGN/ACC on or counting the time from motherboard start. My Opus delays start-up by five seconds from receiving an IGN/ACC signal. That means my computer is really booting in 35 seconds - once it's "told to" by the Opus.

                  [QUOTE=kpjuk]Another thought, have you tried the website that does 98lite and XPlite ? Using a copy of 98lite, I had a 98se image booting in 9 seconds. I am sure that they also do a version for windows 2000, which may be worth having a look at. They are at www.litepc.com

                  You're right, they do - it appears that the XP software is the same piece as the 2000 software. Can it be used after the install? I don't have to start over, do I? Sorry for the ignorance.

                  My biggest concern is that I'm chasing my tail. I'm concerned that the reason my boot time is so lengthy is directly attributed to all my USB components. I'd love to hear from someone with nine (or more) USB pcs installed to hear if they're experiencing extended boot times they can't improve. Or, to the contrary, if someone has lots of USB components installed and is booting to music in seconds, it would be nice to know what they've done.

                  I'm using Frodoplayer in the start-up menu... wonder if that's increasing my boot time, significantly? Gotta have that loading on start-up, so there's nothing I can do - I'm just thinking out loud. I'm including the time it takes to get music which is a few more seconds after 2000 is booted.
                  My first attempt at a carputer.

                  PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

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                  • #10
                    Yes, you can use XPLite after the install. All it does is enable you to uninstall optional components...

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                    • #11
                      I think most of the timings are taken using Bootvis, to give at least a standard view on boot time. I don't think Bootvis starts its clock until after the BIOS has done its bits, so in your case for comparison you would have to take off that time.

                      There is a trial version of XPLite that allows you to remove some of the windows components after your install, so you would be ok using that on what you have now. Just a word of warning, you need to make sure you have your image backed up before you start this, as in my experimentation, I have blown away a dozen images or so, by trying different options.

                      Good Luck Mate

                      KPJUK
                      M1000, 512MB, 512MB CF, 6GB Disk (4200rpm),
                      DVD/RW, Dynamix 8" screen, M2-ATX, Custom case,Too many hours building and rebuilding and rebuild.......

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                      • #12
                        Hi, another thought, rather than have the OPUS kick in when the IGN/ACC is turned, can it not be initiated from the central locking circuit (assumes you have Central locking). Getting in the car and turning the key can take 5 seconds, giving the appearance of shaving time off your boot !

                        regards
                        KPJUK
                        M1000, 512MB, 512MB CF, 6GB Disk (4200rpm),
                        DVD/RW, Dynamix 8" screen, M2-ATX, Custom case,Too many hours building and rebuilding and rebuild.......

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kpjuk
                          Hi, another thought, rather than have the OPUS kick in when the IGN/ACC is turned, can it not be initiated from the central locking circuit (assumes you have Central locking). Getting in the car and turning the key can take 5 seconds, giving the appearance of shaving time off your boot !

                          regards
                          KPJUK
                          Thanks for the advice in the previous message. Regarding this advice (quoted above), I built a circuit to run off the door open signal. Since it isn't every time that we unlock the door with the remote (like mornings pulling out of the garage), I tied into the door opening circuit to start boot up from that instant. That did help... a little. By the time the car is started, pulled out of the garage and the seat belt is buckled, it's only a few more seconds (4-5) before we have sound. So basically, tying into the door cut out the delay time the Opus was adding to the boot up plus a little more. Sound comes even faster if we run MP3s from hibernate, but I really prefer XM.
                          My first attempt at a carputer.

                          PM me if you're interested in a monitor faceplate for your '99-'04 Golf or Jetta. My Vortex ID is NorthAtlR32 - you can IM me there, too. Go here for more information.

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