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    Hello.

    I'm currently gathering parts to put togeather a car computer system to allow me to play mp3's, navigate and entertain my passangers and myself while parked.

    One thing that any decent computer needs is a connection to the internet. And I've tried cell phones for data. I'm just not satisfied. Verizion offers 300-500K service, but that is only avaliable in a few cities. Otherwise, you're stuck with less-than-phone-modem speeds.

    I may have found a solution, but I would like to know if anybody has experimented with this: Mobile satellite internet. Recently a number of companies have come out with mobile tracking antennas for cars that can track geostationary satellites. Not only does this mean that you can have better than dsl quality internet in your car, but you can also receive DirecTV or Dish Network on the road.

    See:
    http://store.yahoo.com/satphonestore/kvha5diinyoc.html

    Or
    WWW.KVH.COM

    Here is the problem: You need a clear view of the south (the satellites orbit around the equator) and unlike satellite radio there are no teresterial repeaters to help in dead spots. You may have noticed most satellite TV trucks that news stations use put the dish on a huge boom that can raise it above any obsitcals. Most in-motion satellite systems are installed in busses or motorhomes, where the roof is high.

    My car is a 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible. So that means I cannot mount the big antenna on the roof. I'll have to settle for the trunk deck. Which doesn't have a lot of room. The car is low to the ground too, which makes it even more difficult to assure a straight-shot at the satellite (even trees can get in the way).

    So I am just wondering: Has anybody here tried this? Successfully? How is it working for you?

    Does anybody know of the lowest profile in-motion satellite antenna? the cheapest? The best? Any input would be appreciated

    Thanks
    -Steve
    Why would anybody want to be stuck driving with a roof over their head?

    Ragtops all the way!

  • #2
    You can get satellite internet access with those?

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    • #3
      I don't know about you, but I don't have $2300 to throw at this project. My phone and my wireless antenna will have to do until wireless broadband from Verizon gets here. Besides, I don't really need to surf the net while I am driving to work anyway. Wouldn't be safe.

      Steve
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      • #4
        way to expensive for me too. good luck

        you can save a couple hundred dollars here:
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hammer
          way to expensive for me too. good luck

          you can save a couple hundred dollars here:
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
          Wow, that makes it fit right into the budget now. NOT!! I would love to see the price on these become much more reasonable. It's not like there is $2300 worth of technology involved here. Call me when they get into the $200-$300 dollar range and they start making them smaller.
          7" Lilli TS, Soyo K7VME, Semperon 2200, 160GB Maxtor, 512mb PC3200, Deluo GPS, Panasonic Slim DVD/CD RW, Linksys WMP545G , Opus 150w, XMDirect, XP Pro, FP, IG [XXXXXXXXX-] 90%
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DrBuzzo
            Hello.

            I'm currently gathering parts to put togeather a car computer system to allow me to play mp3's, navigate and entertain my passangers and myself while parked.

            One thing that any decent computer needs is a connection to the internet. And I've tried cell phones for data. I'm just not satisfied. Verizion offers 300-500K service, but that is only avaliable in a few cities. Otherwise, you're stuck with less-than-phone-modem speeds.

            I may have found a solution, but I would like to know if anybody has experimented with this: Mobile satellite internet. Recently a number of companies have come out with mobile tracking antennas for cars that can track geostationary satellites. Not only does this mean that you can have better than dsl quality internet in your car, but you can also receive DirecTV or Dish Network on the road.

            See:
            http://store.yahoo.com/satphonestore/kvha5diinyoc.html

            Or
            WWW.KVH.COM

            Here is the problem: You need a clear view of the south (the satellites orbit around the equator) and unlike satellite radio there are no teresterial repeaters to help in dead spots. You may have noticed most satellite TV trucks that news stations use put the dish on a huge boom that can raise it above any obsitcals. Most in-motion satellite systems are installed in busses or motorhomes, where the roof is high.

            My car is a 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible. So that means I cannot mount the big antenna on the roof. I'll have to settle for the trunk deck. Which doesn't have a lot of room. The car is low to the ground too, which makes it even more difficult to assure a straight-shot at the satellite (even trees can get in the way).

            So I am just wondering: Has anybody here tried this? Successfully? How is it working for you?

            Does anybody know of the lowest profile in-motion satellite antenna? the cheapest? The best? Any input would be appreciated

            Thanks
            -Steve
            Um Sprint pcs? 250k not unlimited but still a good start. Satellite internet is $$$. Your better off with 3 watt amp, with a pcs phone, and a omni or yagi antenna or both and pick up a tower and login in. Or a wifi setup 1 watt with a omni antenna.
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            • #7
              Just wait for the WiMax standard to take off.

              Cell phone like reception with better than cable speeds.

              it and Im sure youll find ALOT of articles related.

              Its a very cool prospect, but i was always a fan of solar powered robotic blimps that hover indefinitely over cities and carry antennae for Cellfone/data transmission
              (All done)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jammer
                Um Sprint pcs? 250k not unlimited but still a good start. Satellite internet is $$$. Your better off with 3 watt amp, with a pcs phone, and a omni or yagi antenna or both and pick up a tower and login in. Or a wifi setup 1 watt with a omni antenna.
                Well. yeah it is quite a bit more expensive, but it's also the only way to get true broadband internet of the quality you get at home. I currently use sprint and it's....decent. But I am looking to explore my options. Plus, having satellite tv would be very cool.

                As for wimax....I've been waiting for a while. And I'm impatient. But once that does come roll out, it could help a lot. I'm less than 100% confident though that we'll see major coverage any time soon, though.

                Also....do you know where I can get a 3 watt pcs amp? That'd be nice.
                Why would anybody want to be stuck driving with a roof over their head?

                Ragtops all the way!

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                • #9
                  WiMax seems a possibility very very close, as more cell fone towers go up, you can just saddle another WiMax antenna right onto it.

                  Plus, **** the cable internet, i got it so i aint complaining, cuz they charge up the *** for service. Mostly cuz they had to run and maintain hardlines all throughout the suburbs. Oh well not my problem, COX.

                  With WiMax, no wires means cheaper costs, and if they do right off the bat charge the same OR MORE than DSL/Cable, they are just being assholes about it being the new best thing. WiMax doesnt require much NEW hardware to run. So cost of getting it up n running are negligble when you see just 1 tower with its 30mile radius can reach 100,000 people maybe. UNlike the wires under my house for cable which reach 4 of us before going on to the next cable splitter down the block.

                  Bah, free wireless internet should be part of your property taxes. Let the city soak up the costs and let them charge BUSINESSes (usually located "downtown") a fee to use it, residents should get free access.

                  Im just a dreamer.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DrBuzzo
                    Well. yeah it is quite a bit more expensive, but it's also the only way to get true broadband internet of the quality you get at home. I currently use sprint and it's....decent. But I am looking to explore my options. Plus, having satellite tv would be very cool.

                    As for wimax....I've been waiting for a while. And I'm impatient. But once that does come roll out, it could help a lot. I'm less than 100% confident though that we'll see major coverage any time soon, though.

                    Also....do you know where I can get a 3 watt pcs amp? That'd be nice.
                    Satellite internet would be cool. But its so far behind. Cell phones are taking over. Thats you best bet! Sirius radio is coming out with video streaming mobile tv. If that works out. High speed internet might be around the corner! I doubt it but you never know.

                    3 watt amps are $199-$300 for dual banders. Search google theres higher power ones but it gets quite spendy.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sdashiki
                      ...fone...
                      for someone for phoenix, i would think phone wouldn't be a problem to spell. sorry, pet peeve
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                      • #12
                        Where I live, there's a guy I'm about to start workin for, who works for Tangobroadband wireless...and they work with either 900mhz horizontal (non line of sight) and 900mhz vertical (line of sight) transmiters... and he doesn't have my city done yet, but if he were to put ONE horizontal transmiter on the mountain top next to the city pointing towards the center of the city, I can get 3mb up/3mb down broadband wireless internet! But he's still going to help me setup my entire carputer system, so even if I'm not in my broadband wireless coverage area (which is growing bigger and bigger every day) I can still drop right into any other access point for free!

                        I'm sure there is something similar in your area.
                        -Josh
                        1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sdashiki
                          WiMax seems a possibility very very close, as more cell fone towers go up, you can just saddle another WiMax antenna right onto it.
                          Yeah its that easy.

                          Originally posted by sdashiki
                          Plus, **** the cable internet, i got it so i aint complaining, cuz they charge up the *** for service. Mostly cuz they had to run and maintain hardlines all throughout the suburbs. Oh well not my problem, COX.
                          Aw you must live in Candy lane where everything is free! Guess what this is not candy land. It costs money to run a cable company/phone company! Seeing how you parents pay for everything that doesnt matter to you.

                          Originally posted by sdashiki
                          With WiMax, no wires means cheaper costs, and if they do right off the bat charge the same OR MORE than DSL/Cable, they are just being assholes about it being the new best thing. WiMax doesnt require much NEW hardware to run. So cost of getting it up n running are negligble when you see just 1 tower with its 30mile radius can reach 100,000 people maybe. UNlike the wires under my house for cable which reach 4 of us before going on to the next cable splitter down the block.
                          Wowe Sowe WiMax sounds super Cool! It costs nothing to install! Yeah right! So wheres all this money going too come from? You have to buy the equipment and install it first. Wait a minute were all in candy land where everything is free!

                          Originally posted by sdashiki
                          Bah, free wireless internet should be part of your property taxes. Let the city soak up the costs and let them charge BUSINESSes (usually located "downtown") a fee to use it, residents should get free access.
                          Once again you amaze me! Can I come live with you in candy land? I bet you feel the same way when every kid like you on the block. Decides to download every XXX movie on a P2P program.

                          Originally posted by sdashiki
                          Im just a dreamer.
                          Yep and you need to learn that mommy and daddy arent going to be around forever to support you.
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                          • #14
                            Theirs acouple of amps on ebay under $200. Search for cell booster!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jammer
                              Satellite internet would be cool. But its so far behind. Cell phones are taking over. Thats you best bet! Sirius radio is coming out with video streaming mobile tv. If that works out. High speed internet might be around the corner! I doubt it but you never know.

                              3 watt amps are $199-$300 for dual banders. Search google theres higher power ones but it gets quite spendy.

                              I don't consider satellite internet far behind. You can get true broadband access with it. As in, 30 Mbps or so with it. Systems like Datastorm can provide connectivity to an entire college campus or office complex. Now, that's speed!

                              Also, don't forget you can get satellite TV with the same setup. Hundreads of channels of TV and HDTV content.

                              As for Sirius having streaming video. They only have the rights to 12 mhz of bandwidth. Considering that needs to be split between teresterial repeaters and the satellites, that doesn't leave a whole lot of room for video... Maybe a dozen or so channels, but not much more.

                              -Steve

                              kb1ipd
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                              Ragtops all the way!

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