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    I've been experimenting with my laptop and whilst I see a load of 'unsecure' networks whilst driving around I never get an IP assigned to my laptop. I was kind of hoping I'd be able to sync across a bit of email whilst driving but no joy. What's the trick?
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    You'll go in and out of range in a network faster than you can think dhcp. You're gonna have to stop the car to get an email download for now. Get a big wifi amp and a nice omni antenna. That'll give you a better chance of picking one up at a stop sign.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arathranar
      ...What's the trick?
      The trick is that you can go to jail for stealing wifi.
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      • #4
        hehehehe. you are not that serious are you?

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        • #5
          he might not be, but someone is:
          It is official, the first Wardriving conviction is going to fall on the shoulders of 23 year old Paul Timmins. Paul and his then roomate found an open Wi-Fi connection at a Lowes in Southfield, Mi. His Friend then came back with a young hacker and proceeded to route through Lowes corporate. Installing a mod on some software so they could collect credit card information. Those two got the worst of the sentences. The Roomate got 41 to 51 Months in jail and can't touch a computer for 10-15 years. The Hacker got a rather harsh sentence of 12 to 15 years in jail. Timmins will only be in jail for about 12 months. So the question remains, how many of you will continue to wardrive knowing that you could spend some time behind bars?
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          • #6
            Well its different to use corporate WiFi network to dowload your favorite web pages, update weather reports and hack their communication to steal credit cards numbers in intention to steal money.

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            • #7
              looks like that was wardriving with malice... would it be the same if you were just doing it for fun?
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              • #8
                It's illegal to use someone's wireless network just because they are too stupid to protect it. Same as it's illegal to use their car just because they left the keys in it.

                Granted, the punishment differs but it's sort of like tapping into their phone line and using it only for local calls and only when they aren't using it. Still against the law.
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                • #9
                  The legal term for it is "theft of services"
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                  • #10
                    well I done it alot around my parents neighborhood, I could pretty much walk the whole block and pick up 4 or more open wifi connections, aside from my cisco teacher, who lives in the same block, the remaining networks are open and with the default ssid, linksys, netgear and so on. I think he's mentioned that to them and most havent done anything about it yet, so who is really to blame if something were to happen?
                    Now if you were to "gain" access a secured network with no ssid and 128 bit wep encryption just for "fun" that would be a whole different story.

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                    • #11
                      also, a lot of people just use the mac address filters to allow only certain computers to connect, but turning encryption off (having it show up as unsecured, but you still can't get connected)

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                      • #12
                        i also agree, i might be illegal to stop and tap (internet), but if all your doing and assuming your just stopping for a few minutes (as most do) to check an email and maybe a web page, then i doubt anyone would know much less be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what you have done. Also as most have stated since most home networks are open (not encryptic), this usually means {USUALLY!}, their not to computer literate, and they wouldnt even know it if you was parked in their driveways downloading off napster for half an hour and the homeowner was sitting at his computer.. So with all this being said... Im not saying what to or not to do out thier but just this... If you have a WIrless system in your CAR-PC as i do and you are a honest person who occasionally picks up a signal and uses it to just check emails and web pages as such, and does not try to log in to the main computer servers or other things as such, i dont think you need worry about much, nothing is black and white (until you have broken the law of course). I find most Resturants(no-names given) have an open system and i can check emails and think im ok as long as im no changing anything (which i could,trust me....), but all ill accomplish is one less wifi free spot (and possible trouble if caught).

                        just my 2 cents..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zPilott
                          also, a lot of people just use the mac address filters to allow only certain computers to connect, but turning encryption off (having it show up as unsecured, but you still can't get connected)
                          To hi-jack this thread, slightly... I have been wondering about this.... I use the MAC address limiting thingy on my Linksys wireless router.... So mine does show up as "Unsecure"... everytime I tried WEP it just turned into a royal PITA to get myself connected... I know it shouldn't but it always did....

                          So, my question.... If only my two wireless USB adapters are listed in the MAC Filter area is that secure? Is everybody else blocked out?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bugbyte
                            It's illegal to use someone's wireless network just because they are too stupid to protect it. Same as it's illegal to use their car just because they left the keys in it.

                            Granted, the punishment differs but it's sort of like tapping into their phone line and using it only for local calls and only when they aren't using it. Still against the law.
                            That's not actually true yet. There's been discussion about the issue, but this is one of those situations where everyone assumes that it's illegal, but it's not. Sometime soon there may be a law passed, but until then, this is not illegal. We've discussed this before.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dug1967
                              So, my question.... If only my two wireless USB adapters are listed in the MAC Filter area is that secure? Is everybody else blocked out?
                              Yes and no, all someone has to do is scan for active wifi devices (E.g. your USB wireless adapters) grab their mac address, and them spoof it. Most people would have no clue how to do it, but someone experianced could be on your network in 30 seconds or less.

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