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  • Fear of the Car Computer

    If you haven't noticed, in the last few days it seems that fear of hacking the car's computer is all the rage. Here are a few of the articles published.

    NYTime's Carsí Computer Systems Called at Risk to Hackers

    Popular Science's Proof-of-Concept CarShark Software Hacks Car Computers, Shutting Down Brakes, Engines, and More

    And today, Engadget's Hackers can remotely disable your car's brakes, create sensationalist headlines
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  • #2
    love this line from engadgets article

    The solution, of course, is to prevent physical access. So, if you see a hacker hanging around in your car looking all shady, or a laptop computer sitting in the footwell that totally wasn't there before, well, you know who to call.
    ha ha ha
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    • #3
      i really don't see this as a major issue currently-- for most car systems, this hack still requires physical access to the obd2 port, which is no better then what i can screw up on a car of any year, make, and model with a wire cutters, and a dive underneath...

      but i think that it is a excellent reason why car companies shouldn't make networked cars...
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      • #4
        "...Remote Shutdown is available on 14 GM models...."
        - on star

        wooo go onstar! make the dream alive

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        • #5
          I always wonder about onstar; what's to stop a malicious hacker from doing anything onStar car? I mean, all it might take is one factorisation of one large number, and perhaps you'll be able to unlock every GM car in existence?

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          • #6
            i guess just because GM had a lot of money once, so they probably paid someone pretty well to make sure that wouldn't happen.

            But who knows, maybe they used a single equals sign somewhere.

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            • #7
              in other news cars can be stolen.. and it could be happening in YOUR area! how to tell if your car has been stolen at 11.
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              • #8
                isn't onstar based on regular cell phone data packets? seems like it wouldn't be too hard to do a mitm or packet replay attack.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chunkyks View Post
                  I always wonder about onstar; what's to stop a malicious hacker from doing anything onStar car? I mean, all it might take is one factorisation of one large number, and perhaps you'll be able to unlock every GM car in existence?

                  Gary (-;
                  Hacker Disables More Than 100 Cars Remotely
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                  • #10
                    Aren't we all so lucky that terrorists can't afford computers!!
                    But it is a pity that communists now can.

                    Man - gotta love the sensationalism. To think they are only a decade behind....

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                    • #11
                      Whenever these are data packets being sent across airwaves/landlines you will always have to deal with hackers.

                      phone, net and associated routers, bluetooth, ATMs << have fun!

                      FUD always occurs with new technology especially when the technology is so advanced that people have no real clue of what is going on.

                      Don't worry, your TV is going to be next

                      What OS does onstar run on?

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                      • #12
                        Not really a "hacker" as a mad ex employee though.
                        No skills needed these days to get a title
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by chronoglass View Post
                          Not really a "hacker" as a mad ex employee though.
                          No skills needed these days to get a title
                          how many pages of smileys did you go through to find that? lol

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                          • #14
                            Cars, internet and hackers

                            Onstar is basically a microprocessor with custom software connected to the car's OBDII computer using satellite and cellphone technology. Each car has a phone number, EIN and IP address. It is no more sophisicated than a pc with the same configuration. Because Onstar uses the same computer system in all vehicles, it would, in theory, be easier to hack into an onstar equiped car than one with a PC.

                            As with any new technology, the media has to blow everything out of porporation. Can a car be hacked? Yes it can and probably will, however, it is no cause for alarm.

                            Just my 2 cents worth.
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                            • #15
                              So someone from across the world can disable your brakes or activate your airbags at any time...and thats not a cause for alarm?
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