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    Start with the 2k setting. If all your readings are small (less than the next smallest guage setting), then move down and measure. If you get a value that is too large it will flash something or not display something, so increase the setting.

    You cant hurt the multimeter by measuring resistance as you can with the voltmeter and ammeter.
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    Okay, I have the results. I'm not really sure why, but it won't display most of the buttons.

    under the 2k settings I got:
    No buttons pressed 475
    preset 950
    Am/FM 1593
    1___ mute
    1___ play
    1___ seek up and down
    1___ vol up and down

    The underscores are just blank values on my multimeter.

    You said if it didn't display properly to go to the next setting.

    When I did 20k
    seek up was still 1___ but seek down was 19.23

    The next two higher settings had the same results.

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    it even blanked out with the 20megaohm setting?! wow...
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    Unless I'm doing something wrong.. yeah. Is that bad?

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    Well it is odd... If measured correctly, then that means some of the resistors are huge huge huge.

    But you voltage outputs if correct are good for putting into the brain as is because none are over 5v.
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    I was thinking about things and I decided to switch my red and my black just to see what happend and I got numbers that fit on the screen this time.

    under the 2k settings I got:
    no buttons 475
    seek up -654
    seek down -459
    preset 82
    am/fm -217
    vol up -840
    vol down -852
    mute -810
    play -850

    the 20k setting:
    seek up -6.36
    seek down -5.03
    preset -1.92
    am/fm -3.61
    vol up -8.56
    vol down -8.08
    play -7.66
    mute -7.14

    I tested the V--- this way and they all came back the same except for they were all negative.

    Being able to put them into the brain the way they are would be great. What's the next step?

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    You can't measure resistance of a circuit while it's still powered.

    The reason you're getting different voltages while measuring AC is that cheap meters rectify the AC and measure the resulting DC, then adjust with a scaling factor. If you feed it DC in the AC input, then it scales it improperly.

    The DC readings are the correct values. Nick should be able to help with the software.

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    Thanks for clarifying that greenman.

    The resistance did measure correctly when I turned off the power. Now I am trying to figure out how to work with the xml code now. I'm trying to get a bare bones file setup so I have a base to work with. With the configurator it looks like it does just that. It even lets me add my brain. When I save that file and try and open it with the mdx program though it crashes at sorting textures and says "Unknown Error in Configuration File ". I'd like to get it to the point where I can just put the steering wheel controls in it and nothing else. The steering wheel controls will hold me over till the configurator is completely done .

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotty562 View Post
    Thanks for clarifying that greenman.

    The resistance did measure correctly when I turned off the power. Now I am trying to figure out how to work with the xml code now. I'm trying to get a bare bones file setup so I have a base to work with. With the configurator it looks like it does just that. It even lets me add my brain. When I save that file and try and open it with the mdx program though it crashes at sorting textures and says "Unknown Error in Configuration File ". I'd like to get it to the point where I can just put the steering wheel controls in it and nothing else. The steering wheel controls will hold me over till the configurator is completely done .
    Hmmm... I will try this out. So you just opened the config, saved the file, and started the new one eh? I will see what is going on.

    Ifyou did more to this or added or changed something let me know or just post the file as it cant be too big without logic or graphics!
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    Right, I opened the config, clicked on add a brain, added my brain, saved the file, put it int the MDX directory, opened the mdx.exe, and it gave the error. I'm using Vista if that matters. Oh, the default config file opens. I can edit it with my brain information and it still opens, I just don't know what to do with it past that.

    You are correct, it is not very large at all . Like I said, I just created the most basic file the configurator would create and tried to get the program to run it.

    Code:
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
    <FusionControlCentreConfiguration version="3.0.0.0" author="Me" date_created="Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 1:54:56 PM" last_modified="Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 1:55:44 PM">
    
      <graphics>
      <!-- Begin Global Graphic Settings -->
          <main_display designed_for_size="800,600" show_at_size="800,600" menubar="Sizeable" RunInSystemTray="False" MinimizeToSystemTray="True"></main_display>
      <!-- End Global Graphic Settings -->
      </graphics>
    
      <io>
      <!-- Begin Fusion Brain Instances -->
          <brain id="My Fusion Brain">USB\VID_04D8&amp;PID_000C\5&amp;122444EB&amp;0&amp;2</brain>
      <!-- End Fusion Brain Instances -->
    
      <!-- Begin Timer Setup -->
          <timer id="input" interval="75"></timer>
          <timer id="output" interval="100"></timer>
          <timer id="gui" interval="50"></timer>
          <timer id="logic" interval="50"></timer>
      <!-- End Timer Setup -->
    
      <!-- Begin Digital Output Instances -->
      <!-- End Digital Output Instances -->
    
      <!-- Begin Analogue Input Instances -->
      <!-- End Analogue Input Instances -->
      </io>
    
      <logic>
      <!-- Begin Logging Setup -->
        <all_logging>
        </all_logging>
      <!-- End Logging Setup -->
    
      <!-- Begin Variable Declarations -->
        <all_variables>
        </all_variables>
      <!-- End Variable Declarations -->
      </logic>
    </FusionControlCentreConfiguration>ochannel>
      <!-- End Analogue Input Instances -->
      </io>
    
      <logic>
      <!-- Begin Logging Setup -->
        <all_logging>
        </all_logging>
      <!-- End Logging Setup -->
    
      <!-- Begin Variable Declarations -->
        <all_variables>
        </all_variables>
      <!-- End Variable Declarations -->
      </logic>
    </FusionControlCentreConfiguration>

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