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Thread: Vista, NVIDIA, Ram, and Brain (Compatability) updated! code 10 in xp

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman100 View Post
    so it works fine on your truckputer?


    are you using it on a motherboard USB port?
    Yes, and on the ASUS m2n-mx motherboard for my truck computer it's plugged into a motherboard port. Well they both are. One Brain (the one I've been playing with lately) works fine so far. I plugged in the other one; that I had in a box, ready to send back, but I get unknown device in device manager for that one.


    Working Brain:
    USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&1A052CC6&0&2

    Not-working, older Brain:
    USB\VID_0000&PID_0000\5&1A052CC6&0&3

    I guess I can't leave a good thing alone.

    The one that is working now was also plugged into the mobo ports on the HP Vista computer.

    Is there something different I'm going to have to do for the second one? I used XP's more friendly (with more options) to specify the file location for the non-working brain, I even specified the .inf file a couple times, but XP told me that that driver is not for my hardware.

    I sure am happy to finally make the lights flash on one of em though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h3rk View Post
    Working Brain:
    USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&1A052CC6&0&2

    Not-working, older Brain:
    USB\VID_0000&PID_0000\5&1A052CC6&0&3

    those quadruple zeros don't look good. You might need to send that one back.

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    To sum things up with my current XP problems, The driver says it's working. I can not get any of the analog signals on either uber edition or FCC 2.2.1 to show a change, by simply hooking up the dial potentiometer to each input connection on the brain and turning it. I opened up the raw debug window, and I dont see of the analog visuals move. I also hooked up some relays to the Digital Outputs, and toggled them both in the software and in the debug window, and I hear no clicking ( and none of the relays show closed electrically, though the software is telling all of the ones it can to). In the Hz section of the debug window it says:

    Write: 1.45455 (fluctuates)
    Max: 64.00000
    Min: 0.00000

    Read: 0.0000 (never changes)
    Max:0.0000
    Min:0.0000

    This problem was due to a usb cable, it was old and long.

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    I have some pressing questions all of the way down at the bottom:

    I really am frustrated. I'm feeling... well lost, and here's why:

    I've had the above issues for some time, I'm on my second brain, I resorted to doing my hardware testing on my car computer, which runs on xp. I had a few issues at first, but after writing [classinstall 32] at the very bottom of the driver (I tried it just above the strings line to no avail.

    I had no appearant problems, until I started working with the software.

    The first thing I did was download .net (3.5)
    The second thing I did was record the ID and put it in the skin.
    I tried uber, but nothing happened with the brain when I pushed any of the buttons.
    I then tried FCC 2.2.1 so I could look at raw data with the console.
    and:
    I got the read write thing that I put in the above post.
    I was getting what 2K1 Toaster identified as file handler problems on every other start up of the fusion software. Removing the rotating streak image helped with this.(from uber tester thread)

    I tried replacing the USB cable and to my amazement, it worked.

    Shortly after playing with inputs (sweeping a potentiometer) The software would quietly lose communication with the brain, leaving outputs locked in on the brain, and inputs locked in on the software.


    No hang ups and buttons caused things to happen irl.
    Relays clicked and inputs showed up on graphs again.

    after a few startup of the software, the brain would click(switch states on startup) and then hang up. (2k1Toaster identified this as a possible USB hanging up)

    I then tried switching usb ports, and once again did battle with "unknown device". I battled this by restacking the USB drivers, and restarting both the PC and reseting the brain, though it didn't always work, and several attempts and different sequencing were needed. Sometimes I had to move the cable from port to port.

    I got it to work last night for a while, consistantly, but after several minutes it would hang up.

    But after a few restarts of the software and the entire system, it stopped working all together.

    I tried removing [classinstall 32], and then moving it to the original recommended location in the file. But anywhere other than at the bottom = "unknown device"

    I'm having 'better' luck now, it's recognizing the brain more frequently, but now I have a persistant code 10 generic start error.

    I just noticed this AMD xp machine also runs onboard nvidia graphics.

    Also possibly related, I have a yellow ? PCI device in hardware manager but no PCI installed.

    I went through BIOS and USB 2 and 1.1 are enabled. I tried legacy in auto as it was previously enabled.


    So hopefully I wont have to buy a new PC for my truck, but I've got my finger on the trigger;

    Intel next time though...definately.

    Any suggestions on a powerful mini-itx (I a have DSATX) that is known to work with the brain, without a doubt??

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    I think I broke it:

    I left it alone to sulk (and watch football for a while).
    Then came back to it, and it was recognized when I supplied the already USB connected brain with 12V.

    It didn't communicate (skin is set right) but it's progress.


    I removed all of the IO connections prior.
    I turned off the brains power, connected the relays to the DO's and one potentiometer to A1.
    Then I turned it back on, and all of the DO's lit up. It wouldn't take commands from Uber.
    Looking at device manager, it went away, or never came back. And it wasn't even shoing up as "unknown device".

    I swapped usb ports, and cycled power to it, and now I'm back at 'code 10'

    I guess I have to wait again. This is insanity. I'm gonna go try and get my HD radio working now.

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    After a little bit of a wait, I came baack to it, cycled the power supply to the brainand it came up as unknown device.

    Then I unplugged the ps from the barrel connencetor on board, to check the voltage (good), plugged back in, and it came up as a da fusion brain without the code10 error. I unplugged and replugged twice, still good. I checked the Instance ID to make sure the skin was good but it changed totally.

    It was:USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&1A052CC6&0&1

    It is now:USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&169774AE&0&1

    it's never been anything other than the "was" value, save for the last digit.

    It didn't work with the software, and now after a restart, it's back to unknown device.

    EDIT: oh and now I have a ghost "unknown device" that returns even after restacking the usb drivers.

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    Holy crap... Well I have always been an Intel fan (only 1 AMD in all the house ), but this sort of thing definately puts me off amd!

    Do you have a Nvidia4 chip?

    Also do you have a printer attached or anything?

    Can you unplug every periphal, plug in the brain and see what happens? I have been seeing some random internet threads about 18f4550 devices (the big black chip on the brain) and the nvidia chipsets. From what I gather, it tries to get like 95% of the bandwith, available or not. I have no idea why yet. But here is one of the many threads I have been researching: http://www.mikroe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?=&p=45162
    Fusion Brain Version 6 Released!
    1.9in x 2.9in -- 47mm x 73mm
    30 Digital Outputs -- Directly drive a relay
    15 Analogue Inputs -- Read sensors like temperature, light, distance, acceleration, and more
    Buy now in the MP3Car.com Store

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    yes it's a geforce 6100/ nforce430 board

    no other usb devices

    the ghost what the usb cable

    I'm going to try the nvidia driver most recent update (july I think).

    Maybe a poll thread, or a thread listing systems that have successfully worked with the brain, for people looking to get started, and not falling into my trap.

    I'm not like an amd nvidia groupie, it just worked out that way.

    I've been running it as the only periphial (I even removed my sound card)

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    I'll also move my pci-usb2.0 card over to the xp machine and try that. It seemed to work for the people in that thread.

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    The nVIDIA nforce driver update for my mobo, yeilded no new results.

    The brain shows up consistantly as unknown device in any of the new ports on my NEC USB2.0 PCI card. I didn't really expect that.

    That mysterious ghost unknown device in my usb tree (device manager) is back, and wont go away.

    There is one port that after plugging it into, and cycling the power a couple times will recognize the brain for the awesome piece of hardware it is, sometimes with code10 sometimes with no errors, however it does now have yet another instance ID:
    USB\VID_04D8&PID_000C\5&29512553&0&1

    and it doesn't work with the software.

    stumped again.

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