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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    The early beta brains will disconnect if you have too much power draw from USB and are only powered from USB. This is because the power limiting resistors on the LEDs for the outputs are way too small (manufacturing BOM error). Does it happen when wall powered too? I hanvent heard of that before and doesn't happen on my end.
    Um... i just plugged it in with USB and a 12v 1 amp brick... started RRFusion, clicked port 0, it turned on and everything was fine. Then i clicked port 6 and all of the lights turned on except port 6, FB started SMOKING and now its stuck . Unplugged it, plugged it back in with only USB and same condition, all lights on except port 6, but with usb power only its not smoking. Is there some kind of reset i can do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    Um... i just plugged it in with USB and a 12v 1 amp brick... started RRFusion, clicked port 0, it turned on and everything was fine. Then i clicked port 6 and all of the lights turned on except port 6, FB started SMOKING and now its stuck . Unplugged it, plugged it back in with only USB and same condition, all lights on except port 6, but with usb power only its not smoking. Is there some kind of reset i can do?
    Yeah you have a programming problem there... The betas draw too much power and get hot with all the LEDs on. What you did was turn them all on at once... That is a lot of heat.

    Unplug both and wait a second or two. Make sure it is not hot anymore. When you plug it in to the PC via USB only, does it connect? If so, then you should be able to control it normally, or you might have to reflash depending on how long you smoked it for.

    That's why there is an explicit warning for beta users not to turn on all the outputs
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    Yeah you have a programming problem there... The betas draw too much power and get hot with all the LEDs on. What you did was turn them all on at once... That is a lot of heat.

    Unplug both and wait a second or two. Make sure it is not hot anymore. When you plug it in to the PC via USB only, does it connect? If so, then you should be able to control it normally, or you might have to reflash depending on how long you smoked it for.

    That's why there is an explicit warning for beta users not to turn on all the outputs
    No windows no longer detects it. The plastic around the barrel plug is slightly melted but i dont see any other damage. And i definitely didnt turn all outputs on. This is the code i ran (same code as all the ports)


    Code:
    SetDigitalOutput(1,6, true)
    
    Public Shared Sub SetDigitalOutput(ByVal TheInstance As Integer, ByVal ThePort As Integer, ByVal TheOutcome As Boolean)
            If FusionBrain_WinUSB.MainUSBClass.allFusionBrains(TheInstance - 1).fusionBrain_version.version = 6 Then
                Dim _code As Integer = &H3
                Dim _length As Integer = 1
                Dim port As Integer = ThePort
                Dim _toSendArray As Byte() = New Byte(1 + ((_length * 2) - 1)) {}
                _toSendArray(0) = CByte((_code << 5) + _length)
                _toSendArray(1) = CByte((port) << 3)
                If TheOutcome = True Then
                    _toSendArray(2) = &HFF
    'turn on indicator array
                    DigitalOutStatus(TheInstance, ThePort) = True
                Else
                    _toSendArray(2) = &H0
    'turn offindicator array
                    DigitalOutStatus(TheInstance, ThePort) = False
                End If
                FusionBrain_WinUSB.MainUSBClass.allFusionBrains(TheInstance - 1).SendDataToFusionBrain(_toSendArray, &H1)
            Else
                'v3 or v4 brain
    
            End If
        End Sub
    which is the almost the same code as you posted here
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    Code looks fine. I had expected to see your "code" value as 0x02 or something.

    Something screwy happened, never before seen. Did you ever update the firmware on your board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    Code looks fine. I had expected to see your "code" value as 0x02 or something.

    Something screwy happened, never before seen. Did you ever update the firmware on your board?
    yes i updated it several times, though the steps didnt go as your instructions dictated sometimes. The end result was the board displaying the correct firmware via the serial port so i assumed all was well. Honestly i've had a few problems with this particular brain over the time i've had it and its partially the reason its taken so long for me to get the plugin updated. Serial communication no longer worked and now it appears bricked. I'll chalk it up as beta build and get another one, no biggie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    Can you clarify this statement?

    Do you have actual hardware hooked up? The 0.10 button is a digital output, it has nothing to do with what I am assuming is a raw voltage label?



    As previously mentioned, the configuration is what is still under development. Supplying custom code files, and fully implementing the button menus.

    If you don't know what a screen is for, then do not move the mouse for a few hundred milliseconds and a box will appear telling you what it is expecting. I can change this behaviour to something else if you prefer. Perhaps show the box until mouse starts to move or something?

    I make software for you guys, so you tell me what you want, and that is what I do.
    Yes, the hardware is hooked up.

    Attached are a couple of screen shots: one that shows an extra button to the right that I added just trying to get a feel for FuseGL and the other is a shot of the startup screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    I know you said you dont wish to use RR, but if you are interested in how the v6 compatible version of the RRFusion plugin works it is now available here
    I will take a closer look thanks! Bandwidth!
    Thanks!
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    What's new with the Beta software?

    Going to play with fusionGL more later today to see if I can get my head around what's there better than I currently can.
    Maybe a little reverse engineering looking at the files with the sample contents.

    Have some concerns that Microsoft might not support OpenGL in Windows 8. Wonder if OpenGL couldn't just use an app that uses Java Script in a browser for the screen interface.

    As far as a tangible How-do-I question: how do I measure battery voltage and turn a relay on when the voltage drops below a point i.e. 11.6 volts and then turn it off when the voltage becomes higher than 14 volts?

    Another question would be: how do I show the temperature sensor (that came with Fusion Brain) output as Fahrenheit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltersaegir View Post
    What's new with the Beta software?
    Things change often. Lots of updates recently.

    Going to play with fusionGL more later today to see if I can get my head around what's there better than I currently can.
    Maybe a little reverse engineering looking at the files with the sample contents.
    Becoming quasi-familiar with the XML config file is a good idea. It might give you an insight into what's going on. Also looking at some of the sample *.cs files might help too.

    Have some concerns that Microsoft might not support OpenGL in Windows 8.
    This is the classic Microsoft vs. Anyone-Else fight they always pick and lose. OpenGL was also declared "legacy" in Windows XP SP2, SP3, Vista, and Win7. However, the makers of video cards and video card chips (even Intel's onboard graphics) laughed and made drivers for OpenGL. So the built in drivers will probably only support OpenGL 1.1, which means software rendering and slow performance. This is by design as that means DirectX (i.e. Microsoft DirectX) is built in and more fluid. They even have support for how to develop DirectX apps for Metro. Game developers know the benefits of OpenGL and you can count on Nvidia, ATI, and Intel at the very minimum to provide OpenGL support in drivers supported for Windows8.

    This also means that if you install Windows8 on legacy hardware that the video card vendor no longer supports, don't expect a Windows8 compatible driver that will unlock OpenGL.

    Wonder if OpenGL couldn't just use an app that uses Java Script in a browser for the screen interface.
    Already in the works, but uses no OpenGL. It is part of the remote web interface.

    As far as a tangible How-do-I question: how do I measure battery voltage and turn a relay on when the voltage drops below a point i.e. 11.6 volts and then turn it off when the voltage becomes higher than 14 volts?
    Look in the cs files that do something with an analogue input, or the examples in this thread for steering wheel buttons. When voltage > value, turn on output. I can send sample code if needed. You will need either the isolator/divider board or build your own resistor divider network for 12v. Using 12v direct will explode your FB.

    Another question would be: how do I show the temperature sensor (that came with Fusion Brain) output as Fahrenheit?
    The GUI does not support configuring in F yet, but the code is there. If you look in the Sensors.cs file, you will see there are Fahrenheit extensions. If you then open the cofnig XML, you will see it says Celcius in some places. Just replace Celcius with Fahrenheit and voila.
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    I re-downloaded and executed FuseGL on my XP machine and I could see a screen with more *things* in the screen than before.

    Immediately it started generating little info boxes that said: "here for port 1: 0.832v" about every 10 seconds.

    Then it began the automatic update. When it re-executed, it immediately began the same little message boxes. Looked like some debug code, but it was there even before the update.

    I did see that at least once when I executed under Windows 8 which did not produce a screen other than the boxes.

    BTW: does it use all those .cs files and if so in what sequence? I'll take a look and it will probable make more sense.

    *Also*, I just looked at the files that you suggested for temperature. I only see 2 .xml files: persistantVariables.xml and UserGUIConfig.xml. I do not see the words "Celcius" nor "Temperature".

    What am I missing?
    Last edited by waltersaegir; 12-09-2011 at 07:41 PM.

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