Thread: Fusion Brain Version 6 -- Beta Testing

Originally Posted by waltersaegir

Yes, I did create a blank folder, put the one exe in that folder, and run it and there is no Logic folder nor any cs files. What is the criteria for determining what files it "needs"?

If you are running on Vista, either make sure the program has admin rights, or that it is in a folder where no admin rights are needed to created folders and files.

How would I use the "built in" configuration?

Press F10 with the program open.

What are the naming and format conventions required for the *.cs file to be called? What must be done so that FuseGL will recognize the *.cs file?

Nothing special needs to be done for it to be recognized. It is a standard C# code file. The formatting and class hierarchy are best described by examples in the Logic folder which you seem to be missing. Lets solve that and then I can point you at things.

RADEON 9200 SE AGP (0x5964)
Internal DAC(400MHz)
128 MB
RADEON 9200SE
Bios: BK.ATI VER008.015.033.000
Regardless of this card that was purchased to comply with Windows Vista, what is FuseGL doing that requires so much cpu? Are you using graphics to generate the numerical text? Is there a solution other than the purchase of a new graphics card?

The 9200SE is an ancient budget card that doesn't even support OpenGL 2.0. It was obsoleted in 2004, and had an even lower memory bus width of only 64bits. In other words it was an extremely cheap card that was DirectX 8 Compliant and OpenGL 1.3 compliant without enough memory to do much.

But I think your problems are probably related to not getting an output file. Can you upload your FuseGL_Trace.txt file (or email to me). If you don't have one, then this is definitely your problem. Run with admin rights.

Text is graphics. There is no such thing as text to a GPU (builtin or otherwise). So yes every character is a rendered image, like every other program.

I'm not running Vista, I'm Running XP. This machine can dual-boot Windows 7.
(I will however, want to run under Windows 8 on a Mini-itx board that uses Intel 945GM Express VGA)

The "How would I use the "built in" configuration? " question was in the context of: "You access the data by either using the built in configuration". How do I use the built-in configuration to do that?

FuseGL_Trace.txt is attached.

For some reason the trace file shows you with 4 video cards and the 9200SE you mention shows:

4430] 16.02.12|07:57:08:968 >> OpenGL Version : 1.1.0
[4429] 16.02.12|07:57:08:968 >> Renderer : GDI Generic
[4428] 16.02.12|07:57:08:968 >> Graphics card vendor : Microsoft Corporation
[4427] 16.02.12|07:57:08:968 >> OpenGL informations:
[4426] 16.02.12|07:57:08:968 >> Driver date : 21-2-2006
[4425] 16.02.12|07:57:08:968 >> Driver version : 8.231.0.0
[4424] 16.02.12|07:57:08:953 >> Video card 3 - Tul Corporation, RADEON 9200SE :

This says to me that you don't actually have the video card drivers installed. Do you have the ATI provided graphics card drivers installed on the XP system? Not the default Windows drivers for the card, but the actual ones from ATI?

Originally Posted by waltersaegir

The "How would I use the "built in" configuration? " question was in the context of: "You access the data by either using the built in configuration". How do I use the built-in configuration to do that?

Maybe you need to explain what you are trying to do, as I am not understanding this. When you run the configuration part (by pressing F10) you can add buttons/labels/sensors anything like that. This uses the "data" as you call it to display the info. That's all it does. It presents the "data" in an abstracted fashion so you can have a sensor instead of an analogue input with a formula attached that is writing 3 byte sequences to the port.

I very likely do not have the ATI drivers that came with the card and the installed drivers are likely the Windows drivers.

I want the FB sensors' output to be available to HTTP/Ajax/web pages on the same machine that the FB is connected.

Also something on your system is preventing the logic files from being unpacked. I am adding in a line now to tell more info about the unpack error, but I have only ever seen this when permissions don't exist to make files and directories. This happens when UAC is enabled and not run as an admin in Vista, it doesn't happen in Win7 even with UAC enabled unless running from a protected folder (like Program Files). Also over-the-top security software likes to prevent this sort of binary unpacking.

[0011] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> ERROR: Could not unpack logic file: Logic\doOnAnalogue.cs
[0010] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> Trying to unpack logic file: Logic\doOnAnalogue.cs
[0009] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> ERROR: Could not unpack logic file: Logic\CustomGooCode.cs
[0008] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> Trying to unpack logic file: Logic\CustomGooCode.cs
[0007] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> ERROR: Could not unpack logic file: Logic\UpdateLabelText.cs
[0006] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> Trying to unpack logic file: Logic\UpdateLabelText.cs
[0005] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> ERROR: Could not unpack logic file: Logic\ChangeTextOnDigitalOutputChange.cs
[0004] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> Trying to unpack logic file: Logic\ChangeTextOnDigitalOutputChange.cs
[0003] 16.02.12|07:56:45:546 >> ERROR: Could not unpack logic file: Logic\Sensors.cs
[0002] 16.02.12|07:56:45:515 >> Trying to unpack logic file: Logic\Sensors.cs

Ok, this seems to be an XP-ism. If a directory doesn't exist, it will just bomb out. Vista and more recent OS's realize you want to put a file in a new directory structure and make the directory. Update is uploading to the servers now, in about 5 minutes run FuseGL and wait for the update to come down. It should update to version 1.1.0.403 which will explicitly create a directory.

Magic!

Logic directory and *.cs files now exist. Thanks! (Interesting aside that older versions did create the directory.)

Not too concerned about cpu usage on this test machine, assuming that it will be OK on the Mini-itx Windows 8 machine, but I do still want the FB sensors' output to be available to HTTP/Ajax/web pages on the same machine that the FB is connected. Is FuseGL close to supporting that dynamic?