I am Hu-less and as soon as I find the right soundcard and mp3car gets their radio on the market I will never go back to a HU. The pc boots before I even get out of the driveway and I then have way more options for listening than with the HU. My volume is controlled through my symmetry unit so no need even the volume control on the HU. The soundcard I have I am not happy with sound wise but I was never happy with any HU(other than my eclipse I used to have) either so it is not something I miss. Besides if I am going to spend 700.00 on an eclipse HU I will just spend the 200.00 for high(er)end soundcard. One of these days I will bother redgti for soundcard suggestions. Besides with my mp3s, videos, sirius, streaming internet radio, and my own big mouth I do not even miss fm.