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    Frustrated Hardware Design

    Okay, I've posted earlier about the fact that I'm building a Car PC. I'm at an impass here, and I'm about ready to give up and start selling parts.

    I've bought the 2-DIN case online from mechaworks.com or whatever that site is. I've drilled holes every which way since Sunday in that thing to get the boards to fit. They do, but I've bought a Car Power Supply that is too long length wise to be a practical choice for this case. I also have no wiring diagram for my car, so I can't test it, and I don't want to blow out my car.

    I have a Mazda 1999 Protege DX. It can't be that hard to find my wiring harness info online. I have yet to find it.

    I have 100% of the parts to build this thing. I don't have the skill or the patience to put together an AMP9, test it, and risk having several caps explode in my face.

    I'm at my wits ends here. It seems every fricking time I try to build one of these things, something happens that prevents me from moving on. This is my third attempt at building one of these! It can't be that hard, but it's proving more and more frustrating as the days pass.

    So, my question is this:

    Does anyone have plans or know of plans for solutions where I can get the following:

    - A 2DIN case predrilled for a Pico-ITX motherboard and Car power supply
    - A pre-assembled AMP9 low profile
    - A touch screen display mount

    I'm tired of trying. I am now at a point where I just want a solution that works. I don't want to waste my time soldering crap together. I simply want the pieces, want to put everything in a box, assemble it, install it, and use it. I'm tired of fighting.

    Can anyone ... ANYONE. Please help.

    That or just shoot me now!!!

    Cost is no object. I want something that I assembled myself. I'll probably end up buying a new 2 DIN case and having to drill everything from scratch yet again. That's what happens with prototypes. But I've waited the past 4 months to do this. I'll say it again. I don't want to solder a stupid AMP9 board together. I WANT A SOLUTION.

    Help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin5 View Post
    Okay, I've posted earlier about the fact that I'm building a Car PC. I'm at an impass here, and I'm about ready to give up and start selling parts.

    I've bought the 2-DIN case online from mechaworks.com or whatever that site is. I've drilled holes every which way since Sunday in that thing to get the boards to fit. They do, but I've bought a Car Power Supply that is too long length wise to be a practical choice for this case. I also have no wiring diagram for my car, so I can't test it, and I don't want to blow out my car.

    I have a Mazda 1999 Protege DX. It can't be that hard to find my wiring harness info online. I have yet to find it.

    I have 100% of the parts to build this thing. I don't have the skill or the patience to put together an AMP9, test it, and risk having several caps explode in my face.

    I'm at my wits ends here. It seems every fricking time I try to build one of these things, something happens that prevents me from moving on. This is my third attempt at building one of these! It can't be that hard, but it's proving more and more frustrating as the days pass.

    So, my question is this:

    Does anyone have plans or know of plans for solutions where I can get the following:

    - A 2DIN case predrilled for a Pico-ITX motherboard and Car power supply
    - A pre-assembled AMP9 low profile
    - A touch screen display mount

    I'm tired of trying. I am now at a point where I just want a solution that works. I don't want to waste my time soldering crap together. I simply want the pieces, want to put everything in a box, assemble it, install it, and use it. I'm tired of fighting.

    Can anyone ... ANYONE. Please help.

    That or just shoot me now!!!

    Cost is no object. I want something that I assembled myself. I'll probably end up buying a new 2 DIN case and having to drill everything from scratch yet again. That's what happens with prototypes. But I've waited the past 4 months to do this. I'll say it again. I don't want to solder a stupid AMP9 board together. I WANT A SOLUTION.

    Help!
    Not sure why you are so angry. You cant just buy random parts and expect them to fit together perfectly.

    Fist off, I suggest you just buy a G4. If you cant do the stuff above, maybe a prebuilt is the solution for you.

    Also, you dont need a wiring harness. You want to run a dedicated wire to the battery. I realize the pico board will draw little, but those wires are too small and too close to audio. It wont be a good thing once you get it in.

    And if you dont want to build an amp, why the hell did you buy a DIY amp? Just buy a regular amp.

    You cant get something for nothing. You want an "all in one" solution, you are going to have to either a) buy one or b) solder and drill your own holes.

    As for the wiring diagram, you only need to know where the ignition wire is to trip the PSU. So here is what I found with a quick 10 second google: http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wir.../Mazda/Protege
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin5 View Post
    Cost is no object. I want something that I assembled myself. I'll probably end up buying a new 2 DIN case and having to drill everything from scratch yet again. That's what happens with prototypes. But I've waited the past 4 months to do this. I'll say it again. I don't want to solder a stupid AMP9 board together. I WANT A SOLUTION.
    You bought a bunch of parts expecting a solution?
    I'd be frustrated, too, man.

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    I can build you a custom chassis (check out my carPC)

    Get a crutchfield trim kit to mount the LCD to the chassis.

    Get the new M3-ATX, its a pico power supply that plugs right into an ATX port.

    Get a wire harness clip that plugs into your OEM harness, available at any car audio installer shop, this will give you power and speaker interface that is labeled and plug-n-play.

    I would also like you to note that soldering is not a waste of time, in fact its the most secure, least resistance connection you can make between wires. I solder everything on my carPC so there's no possible chance for things to vibrate loose.

    Also don't get frustrated when something doesn't go exactly the way you planned it, sometimes you need to rethink your approach and thats not a bad thing, its the learning process.

    Good luck on your build! Just put your mind to it and you will finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    Not sure why you are so angry. You cant just buy random parts and expect them to fit together perfectly.

    Fist off, I suggest you just buy a G4. If you cant do the stuff above, maybe a prebuilt is the solution for you.

    Also, you dont need a wiring harness. You want to run a dedicated wire to the battery. I realize the pico board will draw little, but those wires are too small and too close to audio. It wont be a good thing once you get it in.

    And if you dont want to build an amp, why the hell did you buy a DIY amp? Just buy a regular amp.

    You cant get something for nothing. You want an "all in one" solution, you are going to have to either a) buy one or b) solder and drill your own holes.

    As for the wiring diagram, you only need to know where the ignition wire is to trip the PSU. So here is what I found with a quick 10 second google: http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wir.../Mazda/Protege
    Like I said, I'm not angry - I'm frustrated. I'm determined to get this to work but it's very very difficult to do. I'm having to do several things over, and it's cutting into the budget in an unexpected way, and it's starting to really drive me bonkers.

    Either way, I have most of the parts finished. All I need is a new 2 DIN part form Mechatronix - which I've ordered - and a new AMP9 that I can re-do. The previous build was shafted because of my lack of experience in soldering. To top it off, I ended up blowing out a couple of caps because they got too hot.

    That's the only thing that's really holding me up is the Amp. Once it's done, I'll have a completed Car PC. But it's making me frustrated that these parts are either not easy to come by, or are difficult to work with.

    BTW, The diagram was the same I found online. I have two connectors behind the dash that are already done - but I don't know what they are, or how they correspond to the power in the car. I will be taking pictures and showing you what I mean soon.

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    You know, if you're having trouble squeezing everything into the dash, you could just put everything in a more tradational, easy to find case and put it in the trunk.

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    Dammit. I hate it when you're >< this close to getting things working, and one tiny little thing holds you back.

    I have finally put together my Car PC, complete with motherboard, Amp9-Basic motherboard, power supply, and display. I can't get sound to work on this goddamn thing! It's a Pico-ITX PX10000, with a CX700 chipset. I've downloaded like 20 different sound drivers for this thing, and nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Each time I try installing the driver, it says "cannot find HD audio device". I've tried Windows 2000, XP, Vista. They all say the same thing.

    I've set up "Azalea Audio" to "Auto" in the BIOS (Sorry, guys, it's "AUTO" or "Disabled", no in-between.) I'm going to install Linux at this point, but the Linux support is complete BS - there's no software for the Car PC in Linux. And anyone who's written software for it has abandoned their projects.

    So, I feel like I'm JUST SO CLOSE! But this goddamn thing is causing me no end of headaches! Do I just have a bad motherboard? If so, I've had this thing for a year, so if that's the case, I'm going to be EXTREMELY FRICKING IRRITATED.

    Has anyone else run into issues? I read a review of this thing and the review says "Motherboard's great except for HD Audio". Maybe this is a common problem, but I don't see anyone else reporting this issue. If I have to use Linux for this stupid project, I'm going to sell everything. I'd rather not waste my time with a half-assed Car PC.

    Yes, I'm VERY grumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin5 View Post
    Dammit. I hate it when you're >< this close to getting things working, and one tiny little thing holds you back.

    I have finally put together my Car PC, complete with motherboard, Amp9-Basic motherboard, power supply, and display. I can't get sound to work on this goddamn thing! It's a Pico-ITX PX10000, with a CX700 chipset. I've downloaded like 20 different sound drivers for this thing, and nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Each time I try installing the driver, it says "cannot find HD audio device". I've tried Windows 2000, XP, Vista. They all say the same thing.

    I've set up "Azalea Audio" to "Auto" in the BIOS (Sorry, guys, it's "AUTO" or "Disabled", no in-between.) I'm going to install Linux at this point, but the Linux support is complete BS - there's no software for the Car PC in Linux. And anyone who's written software for it has abandoned their projects.

    So, I feel like I'm JUST SO CLOSE! But this goddamn thing is causing me no end of headaches! Do I just have a bad motherboard? If so, I've had this thing for a year, so if that's the case, I'm going to be EXTREMELY FRICKING IRRITATED.

    Has anyone else run into issues? I read a review of this thing and the review says "Motherboard's great except for HD Audio". Maybe this is a common problem, but I don't see anyone else reporting this issue. If I have to use Linux for this stupid project, I'm going to sell everything. I'd rather not waste my time with a half-assed Car PC.

    Yes, I'm VERY grumpy.
    Wow your worse then a flamming drag queen, your so dramatic!!!!!!!

    I think your problem is you dont have patiences, your rushing through your install and not paying attention. My first install was like yours, rushed, with no patience at all. I ended up wasting $1,500.00 dollars in stuff I broke and or didnt need. My Remix install started off fresh, most components replaced, took the time to draw up blueprints, did tons of research before touching anything and now I can say my install is progressing like the top guns in here, very clean and uncluttered and best of all working.
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    Yeah, I need to take a step back and slow the hell down. Sorry about that. Frustration gets the better of me sometimes. I'll restart from where I was, and try again.

    And this time, I'll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin5 View Post
    Yeah, I need to take a step back and slow the hell down. Sorry about that. Frustration gets the better of me sometimes. I'll restart from where I was, and try again.

    And this time, I'll
    LMFAO, yea that helps too..... the manual is like a holy bibble, unless it from china, omg there english is bad......
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