Thread: Visteon HD reception woes

Originally Posted by PocketRadio

HD Radio suffers from dropouts, interference, poor reception, and the HD2/HD3 channels have no analog backups. There is a nasty delay, as the HD channels are acquired. This system has been in development for more than 10 years, so don't count on any of this getting fixed. The 10db power increase, being talked about for FM-HD, if approved, will require replacement of all of the broadcasters' HD hardware, so it isn't going to happen. HD radio is nothing but a farce:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com

This is your only post ever? Have you ever even used HDRadio in a decent setup? I had the setup on my test bench working perfect. It was a beautiful thing that i am trying to achieve since moving the setup to my vehicle. I had no dropouts.

It is understandable that the subchannels cant have an analog backup, as the digital system is a piggyback of the analog system, where would the analog backups go, on top of someone elses frequency? What, are you new?

"The FM hybrid digital/analog mode offers four options which can carry approximately 100, 112, 125, or 150 kbit/s of lossy data depending upon the Station Manager's power budget and/or desired range of signal (achieving perceived quality equal to a 1400 kbit/s CD). If in the future the FCC decides to discontinue analog radio, as they have done with analog television,[17] the HD Radio provides several pure digital modes. In these modes broadcasts can be made at 270 or 300 kbit/s maximum, with extra features like surround sound. Like AM, pure digital FM provides a "fall back" condition where it reverts to a low-quality 25 kbit/s signal in the event of interference."

The station is the one who determines its own signal strength, not the technology. Of course there is a delay! Its digital! Do you have an HDTV? pfffst. Is your analog system free of dropouts and interference? Let me answer that for you, NO. Analog systems are prone to such instances. Get out of my thread if you cant contribute anything meaningful to my current issue. No bashing allowed.

Originally Posted by rock99rock

This is your only post ever? Have you ever even used HDRadio in a decent setup? I had the setup on my test bench working perfect. It was a beautiful thing that i am trying to achieve since moving the setup to my vehicle. I had no dropouts.

It is understandable that the subchannels cant have an analog backup, as the digital system is a piggyback of the analog system, where would the analog backups go, on top of someone elses frequency? What, are you new?

"The FM hybrid digital/analog mode offers four options which can carry approximately 100, 112, 125, or 150 kbit/s of lossy data depending upon the Station Manager's power budget and/or desired range of signal (achieving perceived quality equal to a 1400 kbit/s CD). If in the future the FCC decides to discontinue analog radio, as they have done with analog television,[17] the HD Radio provides several pure digital modes. In these modes broadcasts can be made at 270 or 300 kbit/s maximum, with extra features like surround sound. Like AM, pure digital FM provides a "fall back" condition where it reverts to a low-quality 25 kbit/s signal in the event of interference."

The station is the one who determines its own signal strength, not the technology. Of course there is a delay! Its digital! Do you have an HDTV? pfffst. Is your analog system free of dropouts and interference? Let me answer that for you, NO. Analog systems are prone to such instances. Get out of my thread if you cant contribute anything meaningful to my current issue. No bashing allowed.

"Digital Audio Broadcasting Systems and Their Impact on the Terrestrial Radio Broadcast Service"

15. We will not establish a deadline for radio stations to convert to digital broadcasting. Stations may decide if, and when, they will provide digital service to the public. Several reasons support this decision. First, unlike television licensees, radio stations are under no statutory mandate to convert to a digital format. Second, a hard deadline is unnecessary given that DAB uses an in-band technology that does not require the allocation of additional spectrum. Thus, the spectrum reclamation needs that exist for DTV do not exist here. Moreover, there is no evidence in the record that marketplace forces cannot propel the DAB conversion forward, and effective markets tend to provide better solutions than regulatory schemes.

16. iBiquity argues that in the early stages of the transition, the Commission should favor and protect existing analog signals. It states that this could be accomplished by limiting the power level and bandwidth occupancy of the digital carriers in the hybrid mode. At some point in the future, when the Commission determines there is sufficient market penetration of digital receivers, iBiquity asserts that the public interest will be best served by reversing this presumption to favor digital operations. At that time, broadcasters will no longer need to protect analog operations by limiting the digital signal and stations should have the option to implement all-digital broadcasts. We decline to adopt iBiquity's presumption policy because it is too early in the DAB conversion process for us to consider such a mechanism. We find that such a policy, if adopted now, may have unknown and unintended consequences for a new technology that has yet to be accepted by the public or widely adopted by the broadcast industry.

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPA...-15/i15922.htm

Even if, the FCC one day mandated HD/IBOC, which is doubtful, it wouldn't help because only radio-geeks buy radios anymore, and consumers have zero interest in HD Radio. One cannot force consumers to buy empty HD radios through a mandate. HD/IBOc is inherently flawed and will never work - most HD radios have been returned as defective because of poor receptiom dropouts, and interference. Besides, AM-HD doesn't work, especially nighttime AM-HD, and FM-HD jams, also. LOL!

I listened to my radio this morning for an hour with only one drop. The trick? I turned off the monitor. Dont ask me why that worked. With exception to the ****ty processing by my lilliput gl701, for the most part it was flawless compared to what it has been. I just think my gl701 unit is a poorly designed POS.

Im looking into other alternatives now. I might just dissassemble the lilliput and just use the screen. I would need to find a decent apu and video switcher, and audio amplifier. Now i wont have a built in tv tuner either. Mo money Mo money Mo money. Damnit.