Thread: MP3car Authorized Group Buy!!! Audiophile Sound Solution- The HIPPOhi-fi Bloat DAC!!

Also, I am in for 2, but have NOT made my order yet. Also awaiting cash . Next friday for sure..

Originally Posted by dosquito

hello

glad to see i am in the top 10

will they be shipped out in the order that they were ordered?

i sure hope #25 doesn't recieve his bloat before me

also will the group buy go on past 25...? if so how much longer will you wait? i would prefer if the product begins to be assembled as soon as the counter hit 25

You will get yours in order of when you paid, so no worries my friend, you are in good shape! Production/ shipping begin when we hit 25, the minimum order for the pricing, but the GB will continue intil the 30th of this month. You will not have to wait if we hit 25 earlier.

Originally Posted by DJiK

When you say at least, does that mean if you have more than 25 orders by the end of the month, you will accept them too?

What if the order amount is significantly over 25; let's say 50 orders by June 30... Will there be an additional discount to those paid?


Another question regarding the functionality: will this work without a sound card?
What if I disable the on-board soundcard in BIOS, would the DAC stop working then?

You can have multiple soundcards on any PC, it's just another device to pick from. But thats just it, you have to select the device that you want your control panel sound settings and/or music player software to send the audio out from.

Originally Posted by Naamanf

You might want to mention that the USB receiver (PCM2707) is only capable of doing 16bit/48khz. So even though it has a 24bit DAC it's only receiving 16bits via the PCM2707 I2S interface. Also if your using XP and want volume control you are stuck with having to go through the Kmixer which downsamples to 14 bits then back to 16.

I understand that the first DAC is only 16 bits but doesn't that only matter if you are using the D to A function? If you are just passing a digital signal through it, doesn't it send whatever the OS sends and then the second DAC does what it is capable of doing?

Isn't this how external USB DACs that can play higher sampling rate music work? Unless they make high sampling rate capable DAC chips that can receive a USB format.

Originally Posted by DJiK

When you say at least, does that mean if you have more than 25 orders by the end of the month, you will accept them too?

What if the order amount is significantly over 25; let's say 50 orders by June 30... Will there be an additional discount to those paid?


Another question regarding the functionality: will this work without a sound card?
What if I disable the on-board soundcard in BIOS, would the DAC stop working then?

Yes they will definately accept over 25, but I don't think there will be an additional discount. Unless maybe if we go wayyyyyy over- like 50 units- then I'll give Brent a call But really he is doing this to get his product into the hands of more people that can spread the word about the Bloat- more as advertising than to make a huge profit... And yes as T3 said, it will definately work without a soundcard!


Naamanf: Indeed, but they use that USB receiver for low jitter and its clocking capabilities- a much larger concern for this type of device than bit resolution IMHO because resolution is deceptive also. Many other 24bit DACs rarely function at true 24 bits. I honestly don't have absolute knowledge on this stuff, but I do know that the Bloat, even minus the upgrades, sounds incredible. Even with Kmixer and windows volume control. Thanks for the input though!

Joey

Originally Posted by t3sn4f2

I understand that the first DAC is only 16 bits but doesn't that only matter if you are using the D to A function? If you are just passing a digital signal through it, doesn't it send whatever the OS sends and then the second DAC does what it is capable of doing?

This is exactly the way I understand it to work.

Originally Posted by Naamanf

You might want to mention that the USB receiver (PCM2707) is only capable of doing 16bit/48khz. So even though it has a 24bit DAC it's only receiving 16bits via the PCM2707 I2S interface. Also if your using XP and want volume control you are stuck with having to go through the Kmixer which downsamples to 14 bits then back to 16.

could someone please confirm this?

and how will it affect sound quality?

ps: is there any way to plug this into the digital out of a sound card?