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  1. #331
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    Hi Paul,

    First of all, make sure that usb DVD is bootable. Try it on a different USB port (you never know).
    I was using a usb-powered slot-loading slim samsung dvd-rw and it took about 10 tries to get the damn thing to boot (it uses 2 usb ports for power, doesn't matter which ones are used).

    Turns out, most of the times the slot-loading mechanism would take longer to position the cd correctly than the board took to reach the boot selection stage, giving a "no bootable devices" error.

    Since you've already tried IDE drives and these don't turn on either, check your cabling? If your psu uses one of those 20pin-to-20pin-to-atx-to-atx-to-floppy all-in-one cables, try connecting it in a different configuration.
    Mine didn't include any instructions regarding the directions and order (and logically they shouldn't matter), but the order that worked best in the end was this:
    20pin on psu ---> 20pin on mobo which then splits to ---> standard atx peripherals.

    Since my psu also comes with out a 2x2 p4 connector, I used the free atx plug for that. Make sure you don't make the mistake of plugging a 5v (red/orange) line to the 2x2 p4 connector, but rather the same yellow pin to both yellow wires on the p4 connector (you would notice the 5v wire will heat up very fast if you do, which will eventually fry your mobo or psu or both).

    Nothing else I can think of beside that...



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    As for the switching PSU posts...

    I don't know about you guys, but I don't really trust my cheapish PSU to (a) protect the mobo/psu and (b) protect the battery sufficiently well, not to mention not giving me any controls short of installing a switch on the power lines themselves, which is rather crude.

    An integrated circuit to control on/off features for the computer shouldn't cost more than $10 in total for the parts, shouldn't really draw any significant amount of power, and in the version that I'm currently designing for my build there's also a power saving feature to turn it off when it's not needed. Along with a bunch of additional kill and override switches, including another PC power switch (same as the one on the front of the box, just sends your mobo a pulse signal).

    The general idea is for this controller to:
    1. turn pc on if car is turned on and pc is off (unless overridden)
    2. turn pc off if pc is on and car is off (unless overridden)
    3. delay pc on for a pre-set amount of time after ignition (5 seconds for my car, for those extremely cold mornings after a week of not driving)
    4. PC PSU gets power directly from battery constant
    5. controlller also cuts power to the PSU--AFTER the PC had completed the shutdown process (i.e. PC POWER LED goes off). This is in order to protect the battery in case of a faulty mobo/psu/settings/whatever could cause it to keep drawing power

    6(a). controller shuts itself down once pc and car are both off
    -OR-
    6(b). controller goes into power saving mode once pc and car are both off

    Additional control switches:
    1. Main kill switch -- cuts power to controller and PC PSU completely.
    2. Shutdown override -- turns off the controller, allows pc to run while the car is off (can be switched on the fly even after the computer was turned on by the controller)
    3. Remote pc power switch so PC could be turned on and off as if it was plugged to a wall adapter (only works with the shutdown override).

    Basically, this makes sure your PC is off so long as the car is off, and it makes sure that it shuts down properly using the windows shutdown, even after you turned off the ignition. I'll probably throw in 10 minutes timer to cut power after shutdown signal just in case the pc hung on shutdown.

    I'm probably going to redesign it to allow control of a few more peripherals (i.e. monitor, externally powered devices such as ext. sound cards, usb drives, powered antennas, whatever else), and fabricate some sort of wiring harness so I can just plug everything else to this board. This will also protect the measly psu I'm using from overloading since it won't be powering any peripheral devices.

    Any comments/suggestions/requests?

    The design is unfinished so far, and I haven't picked up any of the components, but since this is an old-school op-amp based circuit, component cost shouldn't go over $10-15.

    I'll post a circuit diagram and parts list once I'm done.

    (I would have posted this part in a new thread, but I can't open threads yet But feel free to move it to another thread if it's a problem here.)

  2. #332
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    Hi Paul, try the following.
    In BIOS ensure the following are set to enabled.

    Advanced, USB, Enable legacy

    Boot, to Optical

    Boot, Removable

    Boot, USB boot

    Boot, USB first

    Boot, USB Storage Auto

    Download a copy of Puppy Linux (Even if you don't use it for the system it has been an invaluable tool to me) Having a separate system to Windoze enables you to narrow down faults by eliminating the O.S. as a source of these problems.

    Try booting from this. Then you have eliminate a bad install disk of whatever you were trying to install

    All the best

    Tony

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    Still no good guys. I think this board is faulty, gonna call intel.

    Thanks

  4. #334
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    Before you throw it away check out my experience, i posted this in another thread, but i think it is more applicable here.

    "I recently started work on my board, had a problem, couldnt load xp, would get to the first restart then bluescreen or lock up one way or another,tried two ide leads i had and two 3.5 and one 2.5 hdd,all the same thing, ready to throw it in the bin and as last resort tried the ide lead that came with the board,hello xp loaded up without a problem,on close inspection i found this, what i thought was a break and trashed the lead,i have no idea why it is there,why it wouldnt work with a lead without the "break" I notice also both leads i have had Foxconn c, 0333 printed on them, yet one came with the board and one i have had for many years, the leads without the "break" dont have the foxcomm printing on them, hopefully some savy tech can shed some light on this "coincidence"."
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    It's interesting as my IDE ribbon also has exactly the 'break'. So maybe not a fault? I agree, seems quite odd though.

    Any how I thought I'd try one more time before getting on the blower to intel. Here's how it went...

    First I tried connecting my USB DVD to my Acer Aspire One netbook to double check that the drive is working correctly. Coincidently my Acer has the same Atom cpu and very similar motherboard, which could give further clues regarding compatibility. The USB DVD works and my netbook booted straight into Windows XP installation. Nothing is wrong with the external drive therefore.

    Back to my carputer build. Same as before, nothing happens and machine will not boot to external drive. One last attempt before getting on the phone. I CTRL ALT DELETE instead of powering down the psu and hey presto we're into windows setup. I don't know why or how this worked - I had tried the same thing a number of times previously.

    So windows has nearly finished formatting my HD and it looks like we're in business. Watch this space.

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    Hi Paul, I think the post by quix might cover this as the CD would be powered up already and perhaps be ready for when the Bios queries it.
    I'm not sure if the HDD delay in the BIOS is applicable to the external drives.(I.E. does it treat them as hard drives or would allow more time before getting to the check media point.

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    Hi,

    I had the same problem like pdriver. USB Boot isn't possible. Only with an IDE optical drive.
    Boot CD is working fine, no booting problems with other PC's.
    I installed the the operating system from the IDE device.

    Booting from a USB stick is possible, but not with an optical drive.

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    Boot times are always too slow so I made a comment to the Intel team re boot speed and they replied

    "Thank you for contacting Intel Technical Support once more.

    We are glad to hear you we were able to answer your questions. We also appreciate the feedback regarding "Linux boot and a general faster boot". We will take it into consideration."

    Perhaps if enough people contact them they will address this problem
    All the best
    Tony

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    Now THAT's customer service. Nice to know that there's a real automated person on the other end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hi_hoschi View Post
    I had the same problem like pdriver. USB Boot isn't possible. Only with an IDE optical drive.
    I booted and installed from a usb powered dvd-rw.
    It is possible, it just takes a lot of tries to get the timing right so the drive is actually on by the time the bios queries the device.

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